1. SPS Accounts:
    Do you find yourself coming back time after time? Do you appreciate the ongoing hard work to keep this community focused and successful in its mission? Please consider supporting us by upgrading to an SPS Account. Besides the warm and fuzzy feeling that comes from supporting a good cause, you'll also get a significant number of ever-expanding perks and benefits on the site and the forums. Click here to find out more.
    Dismiss Notice
Dismiss Notice
You are currently viewing Boards o' Magick as a guest, but you can register an account here. Registration is fast, easy and free. Once registered you will have access to search the forums, create and respond to threads, PM other members, upload screenshots and access many other features unavailable to guests.

BoM cultivates a friendly and welcoming atmosphere. We have been aiming for quality over quantity with our forums from their inception, and believe that this distinction is truly tangible and valued by our members. We'd love to have you join us today!

(If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact us. If you've forgotten your username or password, click here.)

Vista laptop that just won't boot

Discussion in 'Techno-Magic' started by Disciple of The Watch, Mar 8, 2009.

  1. Disciple of The Watch

    Disciple of The Watch Preparing The Coming of The New Order Veteran

    Joined:
    Aug 20, 2005
    Messages:
    7,024
    Likes Received:
    38
    Gender:
    Male
    One of my friend's sister brought me her Sony Vaio laptop, telling me it has a virus or something. This POS runs Vista... and a Vista that just won't boot, no less.

    I tried the usual safe mode, no results. I get a black screen and a mouse pointer that stupidly remains there. There's some sign of loading for a while, but nothing more. I could leave it like that for hours and it still wouldn't change a damn thing. Normally booting it yields the same exact result.

    I have a Vista DVD on hand... so I attempted to fix it. It looked like it might just work, but whatddya know, same damn thing.

    I admit I know squat about Vista. Had next to no time to learn it at school, either.

    So before considering Plan D - Destroy, Erase, Improve - any input's welcome. I can get screenshots if need be.
     
  2. Ragusa

    Ragusa Eternal Halfling Paladin Veteran

    Joined:
    Nov 26, 2000
    Messages:
    10,140
    Media:
    63
    Likes Received:
    250
    Gender:
    Male
    Let me say this: Despite all its vices, Vista's installation is very user friendly. Even a RAID 0 installation was a piece of cake, detected drivers and drives immediately.

    Considering this - when Vista's boot DVD doesn't kick life into the computer it is conceivable that it might indeed be a virus that had killed the MBR, or, imo as likely, that perhaps something with the drive itself is wrong (like, did sis kick around her notebook a fair bit, like in a rucksack or car?). Sometimes HDD's fail (as in: fast moving parts, tight tolerances, fragile structures).

    My advice, would be to take the HDD out, and check whether it works on a working computer. That's what I would do with a desktop computer. I know nothing of notebooks. I never opened up one. So, as it is a notebook, I'd send it in to Sony and let them fix it :shake:
     
  3. Kitrax

    Kitrax Pantaloons are supposed to go where!?!?

    Joined:
    Apr 19, 2002
    Messages:
    7,899
    Media:
    74
    Likes Received:
    96
    Gender:
    Male
    So it won't boot to the DVD either? That's odd.

    Have you tryed restoring all the defaults in the BIOS and then going back in and selecting the DVD drive as the first boot device?
     
  4. Ragusa

    Ragusa Eternal Halfling Paladin Veteran

    Joined:
    Nov 26, 2000
    Messages:
    10,140
    Media:
    63
    Likes Received:
    250
    Gender:
    Male
    Kit is right.

    I now think that it is most certainly not a virus. I didn't think that through. Vista on installation would simply overwrite whatever crap there is on the MBR, tabula rasa. So when Vista can't boot, it must be something else.

    Can you access the BIOS? What does it say about the drives in the laptop, HDD and CD drive? More info please.
     
  5. Morgoth

    Morgoth La lune ne garde aucune rancune Veteran

    Joined:
    Jul 21, 2002
    Messages:
    3,652
    Media:
    8
    Likes Received:
    86
    Gender:
    Male
    I don't think the MBR is broken either, because it gets to the point where it finds the cursor image (or can even make screenshot images.) My guess is that it is a software error, two very important services that have entered a deadlock or something to that effect. Did she recently install an antivirus application?

    If you are going to reinstall Vista, you might try to mount the C disk using a Linux live CD and backup the important files. That way, nothing important gets lost during a reinstall.
     
  6. Disciple of The Watch

    Disciple of The Watch Preparing The Coming of The New Order Veteran

    Joined:
    Aug 20, 2005
    Messages:
    7,024
    Likes Received:
    38
    Gender:
    Male
    BIOS works A-1. The specs, though, are some of the most cryptic crap I ever seen -

    Hard disk drive: 160GB
    System memory: 2048MB (Two gigs of RAM)

    The rest of the menus are BS. In the boot menu, the HD is "Internal Hard Drive Disk"... WTF!!!

    Booting on the Vista DVD was no problem either... I tried repairing, didn't help.

    And Morgs, I have no clue about a recent antivirus installation. I was given minimal info for this job. I believe they didn't needed to give me any info since I'm a "professional in my domain". :rolleyes: Do a simple task like reinstalling and backing up data and you become a freaking living and breathing greek god.

    More seriously, there isn't much info I can give here... the BIOS was incredibly cryptic, I cannot boot in Safe mode, System restoration didn't work either, and if I try to fix the startup problems, Vista tells me I'm a dumb mofo because everything "went normally". Running out of ideas over here.
     
  7. Munchkin Blender Gems: 22/31
    Latest gem: Sphene


    Joined:
    Apr 18, 2007
    Messages:
    1,413
    Likes Received:
    14
    Gender:
    Male
    Get a sledge hammer and have some fun...

    Seriously though, you should be able to do a completely new install with Vista by changing the Bios to boot from the CD/DVD drive. If you are able to get the Vista disc to boot than do a complete reinstall and explain to your sis, if that is correct, that it was either looses what she saved or the PC.

    Good luck!
     
  8. Disciple of The Watch

    Disciple of The Watch Preparing The Coming of The New Order Veteran

    Joined:
    Aug 20, 2005
    Messages:
    7,024
    Likes Received:
    38
    Gender:
    Male
    Uhh, okay, this is one of the weirdest things ever.

    So I boot in "Repair my computer", and I see some Vaio recovery or something like that. For some obscure reason, I was able to restore from a snapshot in December that appeared when Office was installed. I checked it with two antiviruses -- AVG and avast! -- in safe mode, of course, what do you know, nothing. Spyboy didn't find anything either. I'll check for Windows updates later tonight.

    Looks like it's back running as a champ, thanks to that recovery tool, however I still don't understand what was the *exact* cause of the problem. :skeptic:
     
  9. Ragusa

    Ragusa Eternal Halfling Paladin Veteran

    Joined:
    Nov 26, 2000
    Messages:
    10,140
    Media:
    63
    Likes Received:
    250
    Gender:
    Male
    Get rid of one of the anti-virusses. One suffices.
     
  10. Disciple of The Watch

    Disciple of The Watch Preparing The Coming of The New Order Veteran

    Joined:
    Aug 20, 2005
    Messages:
    7,024
    Likes Received:
    38
    Gender:
    Male
    Yes, I kicked AVG to the curb and left avast. As mind boggling as it is, this laptop is squeaky clean. She appearantly made backups of her data -- good thing.

    The part that pisses me off is STILL not knowing the cause of the problem!
     
  11. Topken

    Topken Elven-dragon wizard

    Joined:
    Oct 24, 2008
    Messages:
    442
    Likes Received:
    13
    Gender:
    Male
    could of been a currupt registry or any number of problems and that restore point was factory made trust me. it was on a different spot on the hard drive then from the partition that vista sees
     
Sorcerer's Place is a project run entirely by fans and for fans. Maintaining Sorcerer's Place and a stable environment for all our hosted sites requires a substantial amount of our time and funds on a regular basis, so please consider supporting us to keep the site up & running smoothly. Thank you!

Sorcerers.net is a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for sites to earn advertising fees by advertising and linking to products on amazon.com, amazon.ca and amazon.co.uk. Amazon and the Amazon logo are trademarks of Amazon.com, Inc. or its affiliates.