Captain Chris Close Combat Training

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Anyone else taken a look at the Ad on the bottom of the page?

Here's the link:
http://www.closecombattraining.com/cctraining/start.php?gclid=CMWkrobr7psCFd4B4wodJ05TAQ

I just watched the video on the page and found myself almost laughing, it looks like a badly choreographed kung fu movie.

He claims that you can learn more about self defence in one hour then most and I quote "black belt karate masters"

Confidence is one thing, sheer arrgance is another, he is actually convincing people that what they see in that movie works - in a movie, it does work.

and he wants people to pay $90 for the privlige.

 

... Yeah. No.

Ok, there is a little to this, and that is that most martial arts masters have learned a competition, sport fighting style, focused on making contact and earning points, not disabling an enemy. That being said, if you really want to learn to kill someone with your bare hands, join the army. Seriously, they've developed a sort of MMA combo of moved from every martial art they could find, picking the most effective, least dangerous (to the user), and most variable moves. It's probably the only place outside of Asia where you can learn a formal martial art completely focused on disabling or killing your enemy, and the only one developed (that I know of at least) with a modern understanding of physics and anatomy.

I know the US army, and I think marines, use this, and I'd bet most other armies or special forces train with something similar, if not the same.

 

Was that an excerpt from a Steven Segal movie? Really now, like that chic in bed was stopping a big guy with a karate chop?!

 

Well, if you know exactly where to hit, have trained enough that you can hit it on a moving and defending target, and have trained your hand so that it's hard enough, you can deliver a truely devastating blow with that, without even having that much force behind it. Mind you, good luck finding a guy if your hands are like rough bricks.

 

Come on now NOG, you can't learn or train for that in 90 minutes... your right about one thing though, no girls with hands like bricks for me! Scary!!

 

Step one: pick up a dumb bell

Step two: Swing

Step three: run before the cops arrive

 

So basically it's a crappy dramatisation on pressure points in the human body?

You're right, you can learn that in a couple of hours. I have done simply sitting around with Games Workshop staff who are all black belts and like to talk about the competitions they've been in.

A lot of dirty fighting in a series of martial arts I presumed was designed to instill discipline alongside the training

 

An acquaintance of mine was in military police. He's the(n was) 1,90m/ 100kg type, or in a word a goon In school he did Judo. In MP he did kick boxing and close combat. His résumé was that technique is nice and well, but that at a certain point there is no surrogate for speed, strength and brutality. If you emphasise that, he says, you can beat a trained martial artists. According to him the basic principles are simple.

What he was taught in close combat training was to learn a few techniques that work well, and stick to them. I read the same thing in our military training manual (never was taught close combat, because I was in communications, and had no interest in civilian life).

As hyperbole and marketeering Captain Chris' points may be, he still might have them. Oh, and anyway, confidence is said to be an important point in close combat and self defence.

 

Confidence is important, and pressure points can be used to superb effect in a fight against someone who doesn't know them, but there's no way that'd make up for the years of training a karate master would have, especially since that'd include more pressure points that you can shake a stick at (seriously, you should see some of the maps these people have).

 

Who can afford to invest years of training for a situation that will perhaps manifest itself rarely? Seriously, the military has for instance a very limited amount of time to turn a rookie into a soldier who will fight most of the time with his rifle or from a vehicle - usually all in all six to nine months for starters - and there is a lot else to learn.

If you can learn a few effective techniques well that probably will be sufficient for the most people's needs. That, I gather, probably is Captain Chris' point.

 

True. In the military I was once in a military police close combat training and they trained only a few moves and grips which would be sufficent enough in most cases. I believe the techniques and fighting styles that many special forces train are a matter of proffessional pride and an effective method of keeping the body fit. Of course it also helps to adapt to many different close combat situations but most of those will probably never happen anyhow.

 

When I decided to learn martial arts a friend of the family was a 7th degree black belt and he took me under his wing. His art was actually a form of martial arts used by assassins in China (a long time ago). We spent the first hundred or so hours working on death blows -- it was a bit disturbing as he was extremely graphic as to what each did to a body.

 

Well, it is important to understand the underlying principles. Just saying "hit here and they'll die" isn't really all that good an instruction.

 

What he is teaching wouldnt work, It requires thought and above all else, endurance which your average person doesnt have, doing what he teaches you would tire out very quickly and then you would be in real trouble.

Thought is required when you try to teach something which is well ahead of your basic principles, in a fight, people dont move they way you want them to, and normally alot faster then you want them too, if you have to thing about what your going to do next, your dead - you cannot teach instinct with a DVD.

The basic rule for self defence is to avoid the situation in the first place, if thats not possible putting your own safety above hurting your attacker - it has to be over as quickly as possible so only one thought in your mind - escape.

The SAS and the british forces teach a style of reserving energy until the right moment, when teaching self defence we also copy that for example, if your a woman and being attacked for sexual reasons reserving energy until he starts fiddling with his trousers is a good idea, odds are a woman isnt going to over power an attacker, however when he's focused on another action - run, kick, bite, whatever, but your not too tired to do it.

 

That guy has an ego problem and clearly wants to make a few bucks, that being said given that the situation mentioned is not your regular Saturday night brawl in front of the pub there is something to be said about it.

A human body is indeed very fragile so giving killing blows isn't that hard (provided one is willing to do so which is unspeakably wrong). Besides basic wisdom implies that one shouldn't use unnecessary violence when responding to an attack. In most situations, killing someone who tries to mug you can no longer be seen as self defence.

 

Well, that totally depends on not just the situation, but the country in question. In the US, if someone pulls out a weapon and tries to mug you, in most situations it IS OK to kill him and claim self defense.

 

If they pull a weapon on me, I won't hesitate to use any force necessary to stop them from using it. If that means killing them, well, they shouldn't have drawn a weapon. That being said, if that means running away, well, I'm a good sprinter!

 

Killing a person can be far more difficult than people make out.

I personally like the whole 'death points' debate as some teachers teach these as actual technique, I find that a good kick to the head or ribs can be far more lethal.

 

That's basically what I was taught -- there's really only a few places to hit and cause lethal damage. I also received a bit of detailed instruction as to which parts of my body did adequate damage to achieve the desired result. Although there are quite a few places where you can utilize the 'stun and run' tactic.

Many of the "traditional" death blows in martial arts movies really just piss off the other guy. The 'break his nose and jam it into his brain' will, over 90% of the time, not even break the nose unless you hit perfectly -- which is unlikely. So you just smacked a guy in the face, who also recognized the move from movies and is now pissed as all hell. Good luck. In a similar 'stun and run' move, you go straight into the guys nose and crush it with all your might. The nose breaks, his eyes swell shut and you run away hoping this really, really pissed off guy doesn't grab hold of you.

 

In my very limited experience aggression seems to be key, aggression and a lack of fear. The guy who lacks fear usually ends up on top unless severely outmatched. If I really got cornered I would bite, scratch, poke and gouge and do just about anything to hurt, maim or even kill the person cornering me shedding any semblence of civilization. I am pretty sure that even a big skilled guy would be given pause if someone tore a chunk of his arm out with their teeth.