I hate anime

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I doubt the hardcore american 'otaku' know that! *snicker*

 

Granted there are Animes out there which really suck... but there are also some brilliant ones too... case in point how can you possibly argue against Cowboy Bebop? IMHO Bebop is the best anime EVER CONCIEVED!!!!

 

Never heard of it. What is it?

 

Futurama and Southpark are the best cartoons I've ever seen.

 

I'm not really into the Japanese animation or any other animation actually.

I remember seeing a hentai at a friend's house once (he was from Hong Kong and it was translated to Cantonese) and I thought it was dumb. Perhaps the real thing, or even better, and real life relationship would have helped.

I saw a good Japanese animated movie about a "pig" (he was really a man with a piglike face) who was a pilot in the 1920's or so. That was a good film and had a very interesting story.

I am assuming that the above is not Anime, right Shura?

I loved a series called "Star Blazers" as a kid, and even watched Astroboy for a while way back then.

I don't allow my kids to watch Dragon Balls or Pokemon or any other "mon", not because it happens to be Japanese (although I think the cultural gap is too wide for me) be because it just happens to be drivel. I am the same about American animations on this. They are just drivel, so my kids can live without them. Go read a book (not a comic, a book!)

As Beren stated about the limited 28 episodes. Give the story a rest and keep it sweet. All good things must come to an end.

How many episodes has Dragonballs got? A few hundred? It must be almost as ridiculously long as the Bold and the Beautiful.

Gabriel.

Is it possible that some women characters are poorly portrayed or poorly translated. I think some of the ways in which women are portrayed in Western animation such as Mu Lan, (which is just soooo Chinese!) Anastasia, Little Mermaid and the rest are quite...hmm... Actually I think I'll let Shura come up with a totally unbiased and not culturally loaded adjective here!

Shura. I am being sarcastic above. I think that you may have a similar view towards western animation as Gabriel does to eastern?

 

Not really, seeing as I do enjoy quite a few western animations like the Simpsons, Batman and Batman Beyond, X-men to name a few.

I tend to steer clear of anime that DOES potray women as unproportionate freaks with overly large eyes. Such degradation of females is admittedly much less prevalent in western animations, however.

I don't really get your point though, Kharzaj. Perhaps I'm too tired now, but if you could rephrase your statement it would be easier for me to respond properly to it.

 

Speaking of fantasy I just remembered something.

One experiment was done where a person videotaped a piece of paper dangling by a string attached to the ceiling. When the video was played it was discovered that the paper could be affected through telekenesis into moving. Here's the hitch, the original paper was'nt affected, only the one on the TV screen. So what was being affected? The picture on the screen is after all only light waves. On the 1% that this story is actually true it would be an interesting thing to study, and you could kick the ass of those effete males you seem to hate so much.

 

Shura.

I mean, Mu Lan (Disney version) was so authentically Chinese...NOT!

How would you describe the way women are portrayed in Anastasia, Little Mermaid etc, (other Disney movies), both physically and personality.

Gabriel

I notice that men also tend to have large eyes and long legs in some Japanese animation. How is that different from the femmes?

 

to Virne: Cowboy Bebop is this well written, well characterized animated series about two bounty-hunters, one a former gangster..the other a former cop. they hook with a comely lass who is a ne'er do well and a decidedly insane child prodigy who is a wiz at computer hacking. the setting is the distant future in which humans have colonized other planets. no big robots with swords, no chi manipulating fighters, no bunny ears.
all action, great dialogue, even cooler music

Khaz: Well for one thing the men in japanimation aren't drawn with huge genitals are they? I dont see Goku from DBZ swinging his little saiyan around. I do realized that some anime has a stylized view of women in general but some series just go overboard and it's very sickening in a diabetes inducing sugary sweet manner. That's why I'm much more partial to anime from the 70s (Lupin III, Mazinger, Cyborg 009, Galaxy Express 999, Captain Harlock) to the late 80s (Golgo-13, Fist of the North Star, Macross Saga & Ranma 1/2). Mind you, I also like some of the newer ones like BeBop. As for the long legs, I dont know..depends on the creator I guess.
I think that's a reason why BeBop is so popular with older japanimatin fans, the style is very similar to the cartoons from the 70s &80s. Jet's beard, the way the ships are designed, how every charactr (even the bounties have fleshed out personalities).

[ June 13, 2003, 04:03: Message edited by: GabrielNYC ]

 

REVIVAL OF A OLD TOPIC!!

I personally enjoy anime, mainly because it usually has a ending (UNLIKE AMERICAN CARTOONS) a good plot (Unlike American cartoons) and usually better drawing then American cartoons. I personally do NOT want to watch the &^(&(&^% Powerpuff Girls slay the same damn monsters over and over, and in anime, the story is darker sometimes, and more confusing.

But Hamtaro sucks.

And Dragonball Z. I mean, come on, who want's to watch the same fight over and over? It's always the same!! Goku dies, bad guy dies, blahblahblah.

But the GOOD anime out there should be watched.

El-Hazard was a comidic/adventure anime, and I enjoyed the three episodes I saw. (>_<) Cowboy Beebop is very good, and it has a little humor as well as good action. Love Hina is my favey, mainly due to the humor. It's a little unrealistic, but it is a really good story, and SHINOBU'S SO CUTE!~! ^_^

Neon Genesis Evangelion is the best Sci-Fi anime. It has a great storyline, a good plot, and a dozen pitfalls. Impossiple to understand all of it the first time watched.

 

I have to admit, I actually watch DBZ if it's on and I am for some weird reason ac tually watching TV... I can't resist a good laugh.

 

Dragonball Z, whew. I have to admit I saw very much episodes, because they were quite funny

I watch anime quite often, although there aren't any good animes at tv in last time, but sometimes I'm that bored that I watch them, and you have to admit, that they are better than sitcoms !

And New you're right, Hamtaro sucks ! That's the same with Pokemon. Many of the newer animes are only produced because of the money. O.k., the earlier Animes were produced to earn money, too, but the author of the animes put his heart into this things. There weren't such stuff like Pokemon, wich episodes are all the same ( Ash with Picatchu help poor people whose pokemon are taken away by Team Rocket ). And I can't imagine why Pokemon was so sucssesfull, even small kids have to see that it's terrible !

 

Some of the best anime's were great because they were SHORT! They had great material, and didn't take 1234 episodes to dish it all out. Neon Genesis Evangelion, the greatest Sci-Fi anime of all time, was twenty six episodes, and three movies long. The movies were there to make another ending. You don't need a constipated dude in kung fu clothes to make a great anime.