1. SPS Accounts:
    Do you find yourself coming back time after time? Do you appreciate the ongoing hard work to keep this community focused and successful in its mission? Please consider supporting us by upgrading to an SPS Account. Besides the warm and fuzzy feeling that comes from supporting a good cause, you'll also get a significant number of ever-expanding perks and benefits on the site and the forums. Click here to find out more.
    Dismiss Notice
Dismiss Notice
You are currently viewing Boards o' Magick as a guest, but you can register an account here. Registration is fast, easy and free. Once registered you will have access to search the forums, create and respond to threads, PM other members, upload screenshots and access many other features unavailable to guests.

BoM cultivates a friendly and welcoming atmosphere. We have been aiming for quality over quantity with our forums from their inception, and believe that this distinction is truly tangible and valued by our members. We'd love to have you join us today!

(If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact us. If you've forgotten your username or password, click here.)

What is a Drider???

Discussion in 'BG2: Throne of Bhaal (Classic)' started by Veldrin the Drow, Aug 6, 2004.

  1. Veldrin the Drow Gems: 2/31
    Latest gem: Fire Agate


    Joined:
    Apr 13, 2004
    Messages:
    36
    Likes Received:
    0
    i have only played the BG series and i have heard the drow go on about becoming driders (sofalein and viconias brother whatever he called) so my question i ssimple what exactly is a drider???
     
  2. Xei Win Toh Gems: 17/31
    Latest gem: Star Diopside


    Joined:
    Oct 14, 2003
    Messages:
    924
    Likes Received:
    0
    Short version: Half drow, half spider.

    Long version: Let someone else fill you in on that.
     
  3. Aldeth the Foppish Idiot

    Aldeth the Foppish Idiot Armed with My Mallet O' Thinking Veteran

    Joined:
    May 15, 2003
    Messages:
    12,434
    Media:
    46
    Likes Received:
    250
    Gender:
    Male
    It's a drow that is part drow and part spider. I think it still retains the drow head, but the body transforms into that of a spider.
     
  4. Veldrin the Drow Gems: 2/31
    Latest gem: Fire Agate


    Joined:
    Apr 13, 2004
    Messages:
    36
    Likes Received:
    0
    ohhhhh so thats why them drow aint to keen on the idea lol
     
  5. Register Gems: 29/31
    Latest gem: Glittering Beljuril


    Joined:
    Oct 17, 2001
    Messages:
    3,146
    Likes Received:
    1
    Gender:
    Male
    Well, he keeps the head and the torso, but the lower part of the body becomes that of a spider's, actually.
     
  6. Veldrin the Drow Gems: 2/31
    Latest gem: Fire Agate


    Joined:
    Apr 13, 2004
    Messages:
    36
    Likes Received:
    0
    actually that be pretty cool, all those extra legs could come in handy
     
  7. Sir Belisarius

    Sir Belisarius Viconia's Boy Toy Distinguished Member ★ SPS Account Holder

    Joined:
    Jul 7, 2000
    Messages:
    4,257
    Media:
    23
    Likes Received:
    4
    Gender:
    Male
    From the Monster Manual II (1st ed AD&D):

    "The drider is a special creation of Lolth's magick. When drow of promising ability reach 6th level or slightly higher, Lolth will summon them and put them through a specially devised test. The drow that fail become driders.

    A drider appears to be a cross between a giant spider and a drow elf. The torso, gead and arms of a pale, bloated drow sprout 8 spider legs. Due to the bloated form, it is impossible to distinguish the sex of a drider, but 60% of those encountered will be female. (persumably because of Lolth's trials are geared towards females)

    a drider retains whatever drow abilities it possessed before the transformation; therefore, all driders have magical or clerical ability - magic use for males, clerical for females.

    Driders are outcasts from drow communities and thus bear them no great love. They are seldom found in numbers, prefering to operate alone. Driders will be accompanied by 2-12 huge spiders 10% of the time. Generally living undeerground, they will often stalk their victims until the right opportunity for a kill presents itself. Their diet consists mainly of the blood of their victims, as they have acquired a spider's tastes."

    Hope this helps!
     
  8. Gothmog

    Gothmog Man, a curious beast indeed! ★ SPS Account Holder Veteran

    Joined:
    Jun 30, 2002
    Messages:
    1,829
    Likes Received:
    6
    That test is described a bit in the Drizzt books. Not tooo detailed, but it does appear and failure is drow transformation.
    There, though, every drow in training had to go through the test. A drider that a drow becomes retains its previous class. So, if a fighter5/wizard1 is transformed into a drow, it'll just add some abberation (i think it's abberation) levels on top of it. They also gain a few spell-like abilities iirc. Darkness spell being one of them.
    I hope someone can confirm all this, i'm not too sure about it all, i just glanced at them, hope i recalled correctly.

    There are also all sorts of other of reasons drow make one of their own into a drider, besides this test.
     
  9. Apeman Gems: 25/31
    Latest gem: Moonbar


    Veteran

    Joined:
    Sep 25, 2002
    Messages:
    2,153
    Likes Received:
    3
    Also Matron Mother have the power (through Lolth) to transform their own blood to driders. This happened to one of the characters in a Drizzt novel.
     
  10. Yirimyah Gems: 11/31
    Latest gem: Bloodstone


    Joined:
    Jul 23, 2004
    Messages:
    429
    Likes Received:
    0
    yeah, if a Drow angers Lolth he or she can be Dridered.
     
  11. Sparhawk the Pandion Gems: 14/31
    Latest gem: Chrysoberyl


    Joined:
    Aug 30, 2003
    Messages:
    665
    Likes Received:
    0
    And there are some of them in IWD2. They look sort of like a centaur, but with a spider body instead of a horse.
     
  12. Taluntain

    Taluntain Resident Alpha and Omega Staff Member ★ SPS Account Holder Resourceful Adored Veteran Pillars of Eternity SP Immortalizer (for helping immortalize Sorcerer's Place in the game!) New Server Contributor [2012] (for helping Sorcerer's Place lease a new, more powerful server!) Torment: Tides of Numenera SP Immortalizer (for helping immortalize Sorcerer's Place in the game!) BoM XenForo Migration Contributor [2015] (for helping support the migration to new forum software!)

    Joined:
    Jun 11, 2000
    Messages:
    23,644
    Media:
    494
    Likes Received:
    563
    Gender:
    Male
  13. Jolt Gems: 2/31
    Latest gem: Fire Agate


    Joined:
    Jul 18, 2004
    Messages:
    33
    Likes Received:
    0
    [​IMG] thats interesting information..cool..i remmember getting overwealmed by driders like it was yesterday...it accually was yesterday when i was playin iwd2..hehe..im so sorry :eek:
     
  14. Veldrin the Drow Gems: 2/31
    Latest gem: Fire Agate


    Joined:
    Apr 13, 2004
    Messages:
    36
    Likes Received:
    0
    If they keep all there powers and abilities just look like that, i reckon they could become a more powerful race than the drow, surly they move faster, and proabably have a understanding with spiders better than the drow, really i think driders could raise an army in a retaliatory strike against the drow. It may be folish to try but i bet the illithid would side with them as well as all the spiders, if the driders could swallow whatever pride they had left thye may even be able to get duegur and them gnome who name i can't spell to side with them, i think that would be a pretty cool thing to happen. the war between drow and driders, be kinda funny.
     
  15. Urithrand

    Urithrand Mind turning the light off? ★ SPS Account Holder Veteran

    Joined:
    Jul 26, 2004
    Messages:
    1,358
    Media:
    20
    Likes Received:
    15
    Gender:
    Male
    If anybody here has been playing D&D games for long enough, the Driders appeared in a very (Very) old game called Unlimited Adventures which was one of the first ever computerised D&D games. In that they actually hung out with the Hill Giants... I dunno if this bears any resemblance to the modern Drider, but I just thought it was interesting...
     
  16. Blog Gems: 23/31
    Latest gem: Black Opal


    Joined:
    Sep 4, 2002
    Messages:
    1,634
    Likes Received:
    1
    Well in Forgotten Realms Unlimited Adventures, all the games are customized and made by us users, so you can put monsters in wherever you want. For marketed D&D games, I first saw them in Secret of the Silver Blades. They were so funny, blasting lightning bolts all over the place and making use of their magic resistance to avoid damaging themselves too much. And they had a poisonous (presumably spider) bite that paralyzes on hit if you fail a saving throw. But they were out of place in that game, they seemed like just another cool monster to kill. In fact I didn't realize they were half drow half spider until I played the sequel to that game, when drow were introduced.

    Oh yeah, and I have never seen a drider cast clerical spells in a game yet, so I'm a bit skeptical about what someone said earlier.
     
  17. Shrikant

    Shrikant Swords! Not words! Veteran

    Joined:
    Apr 23, 2003
    Messages:
    2,620
    Likes Received:
    3
    Gender:
    Male
    Some driders in IWD II cast cleric spells. I think the reason driders cant go up against the drow is that the higher level powers of a cleric, wizard or fighter own those of the drider levels.

    Remember the drider form is a punishment for failure. So those who remain drow will actually be more powerful.
     
  18. Veldrin the Drow Gems: 2/31
    Latest gem: Fire Agate


    Joined:
    Apr 13, 2004
    Messages:
    36
    Likes Received:
    0
    Thats the only reason why I didn't think they could, but then if they got the allies and there new form must give adavntages, they are proably faster, and i would reckon they find difficult terrains easier to cross. If i was a Drider i would certainly try it.
    Also as was said before not all the drow were punsihed for failure, some for angering the matron mothers for example. i belive sofalien has a dialouge where he says for his betrayal he would become a drider and he a capable figher and a handy mage as well so he would be one kick ass drider, and imagine if they caught drizzt and made him one, that would be one powerful Drider.
     
  19. Mayfairy Gems: 8/31
    Latest gem: Skydrop


    Joined:
    Nov 10, 2003
    Messages:
    263
    Likes Received:
    0
    You all seem to forget one thing.

    IF Drow vs. Driders = Draw (which I believe is not) then what do you think Drow + Lolth vs. Driders is?
     
  20. Veldrin the Drow Gems: 2/31
    Latest gem: Fire Agate


    Joined:
    Apr 13, 2004
    Messages:
    36
    Likes Received:
    0
Sorcerer's Place is a project run entirely by fans and for fans. Maintaining Sorcerer's Place and a stable environment for all our hosted sites requires a substantial amount of our time and funds on a regular basis, so please consider supporting us to keep the site up & running smoothly. Thank you!

Sorcerers.net is a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for sites to earn advertising fees by advertising and linking to products on amazon.com, amazon.ca and amazon.co.uk. Amazon and the Amazon logo are trademarks of Amazon.com, Inc. or its affiliates.