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To all citizens of the US of A!

Discussion in 'Alley of Dangerous Angles' started by joacqin, Nov 5, 2002.

  1. joacqin

    joacqin Confused Jerk Adored Veteran Pillars of Eternity SP Immortalizer (for helping immortalize Sorcerer's Place in the game!)

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    Go vote! No legal thing is worse than a citizen in a democratic nation that is allowed to vote but choose to not do so. Every vote matters, the ancesters you are so proud of died and fought to give the generations of today the option to choose whom to lead them. Every nonvoter is a blow against democracy in itself and are leading to the weakening of your own freedom. Every vote matters, if you feel that there is no party/voice/candidate that you want to support vote for the least ill or even vote blank if you have to. But you have the oppurtinity to vote, no the *obligation* to vote. If you do not you are not worthy of the privilige of living in a nation that gives its citizens that option.
    Generally this goes for any nation with an election but as it is one in the states today/tomorrow and they are known for a low turnout I thought I would stress it.
     
  2. Oaz Gems: 29/31
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    And if you're in Nevada, vote to legalize marijuana. :p
     
  3. Blackthorne TA

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    And vote against all bond measures just on principle.
     
  4. Big B Gems: 27/31
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    <Nudges BTA>

    Ain't he a funny guy :D ?

    So Joacquin, look up Erskine Bowles and Elizabeth Dole for NC and tell me who I should vote for. :p
     
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    dmc Speak softly and carry a big briefcase Staff Member Distinguished Member ★ SPS Account Holder Resourceful Adored Veteran New Server Contributor [2012] (for helping Sorcerer's Place lease a new, more powerful server!)

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    Absolutely vote, and vote against any bond measure or other initiative designed to raise taxes or fund someone's pet project. We elect the members of the legislature for a reason -- to decide, with the executive branch of the government, how to spend our money. If they try to palm it off on the voters, what are they doing with their time in office?
     
  6. ejsmith Gems: 25/31
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    Personally, this all goes back to the public flogging thread, but I'll leave it alone. Congressmen have enough to worry about without having to deal with cuts and bruising.

    And yeah. I vote. More often than not, it is quite literally the lesser of the evils, but I use my #2 pencil.

    Out of curiousity, how many people use the "scantrons" to vote with?

    I've been using them ever since I started voting in my state.
     
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    You're in Florida, too, right ejsmith? Alachua county has used scantron sheets for a while. Tomorrow's ballot is 4 pages! This one's gonna take a while
     
  8. Kitrax

    Kitrax Pantaloons are supposed to go where!?!?

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    I don't care who you guys vote for, but PLEASE don't vote for anyone jerk who wants to take our 2nd amendment rights away!!!! Look what happened on the Simpsons when Lisa got everyone to get rid of thier guns! :rolling:
     
  9. Sir Belisarius

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    [​IMG] Wise words from Kitrax...

    I haven't missed a vote since I became eligible. It's probably the most important thing a citizen can do in a democracy, and it shames me that the best the US can muster in an election year is a 49-50% voter turnout! Oh well, you get out what you put in!

    Never forget that one vote can make a difference - especially if you can encourage several people that think that way to make it to the ballot box.

    Let me get up on my soapbox: Don't vote blindly! I've never voted a straight ticket in my life! Think about what's important to you, then find out what is important to the candidates...Then make your choice!

    And most importantly: Turn off the news!!! Don't let talking heads with their own agendas pick the candidates for you! Nothing is worse than a bunch of lemmings jumping off a cliff just because someone says jump!

    Thus endeth the rant...
     
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    They have lemmings on television now??1??!?!?

    P.S. Erskine is teh sux.

    [ November 05, 2002, 15:29: Message edited by: Shralp ]
     
  11. Sir Belisarius

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    [​IMG] No...One shouldn't act like lemmings!!! Well, maybe they are on tv.

    My chad is hanging, my chad is hanging!!!!! The horror! ;) :lol: :grin: :spin: :roll:
     
  12. Blackthorne TA

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    Those that don't vote are either apathetic or uninformed. Do you really want those people voting? I sure don't, though I'm not sure how much better the average voter is! :)
     
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    You said it, BTA! Most people who *do* vote seem to automatically go for the same party each election, like they're rooting for a sports team, without putting any research or thought into why one platform is better than another. The democratic process is better off without *more* apathetic voters.
     
  14. Sir Belisarius

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    [​IMG] I disagree...If you're casting a ballot, you cannot be apathetic. You're involved in the political process! But I do agree that voters shoudl try to be as informed as possible before they close the curtain.

    I am voting for the Very Silly Party! :grin:
     
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    If I lived in the US, I would vote for the Estrogen Monkey party, with its benevolent leader C'Jakob.

    Oh, and I'd have to grow up by a coupla years, but that's not important.

    Just remember...dead people CANNOT vote. That's CANNOT, ok? :D
     
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    The dead are allowed to vote, but only here in Illinois. With a very close governor's race this year, the dead are expected to vote in record numbers.

    Ahh, for the glory days of machine politics ... :D
     
  17. joacqin

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    Sprite and BTA you are threading dangerous grounds, elitism has no place in a democracy. No matter how stupid and ignorant voters are they should be encouraged to vote. Believe me when I say I have seen my fair share of idiotic reasons to pick what to vote for but that is a part of the system. Even apathetic voters are better than fanatics and extremists and believe me, they vote. Not encouraging the ignorant and stupid to vote, even if they vote for someone that has a nice coat or pretty smile is dangerous as it may open up for extremist powers whose followers vote every single one of them.

    Big B, I would never presume to tell you who to vote for or even give you my opinion, it is your choice and no ones elses. For good or for bad.
     
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    I was joking to a degree, I will make up my own mind.

    But I do agree with Shralp about Erskine is the "sux", not that Dole is the "roxor" but she is better for us North Carolians IMHO.
     
  19. Blackthorne TA

    Blackthorne TA Master in his Own Mind Staff Member ★ SPS Account Holder Adored Veteran Pillars of Eternity SP Immortalizer (for helping immortalize Sorcerer's Place in the game!) New Server Contributor [2012] (for helping Sorcerer's Place lease a new, more powerful server!) Torment: Tides of Numenera SP Immortalizer (for helping immortalize Sorcerer's Place in the game!)

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    I disagree that apathetic or uninformed voters should be encouraged to vote. They are worse than extremists and fanatics because they have no reasoning behind what they choose.

    Apathetic and/or uninformed citizens should be encouraged to become involved and knowlegeable about the issues/people in the government. That way they will want to vote and can make intelligent decisions based on facts and not nonsense.
     
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    [​IMG] Excuse me, but they are not worse than me!

    Because of ignorant war wanting extremists, Bush won before...lol :p :toofar: :grin:

    Push the apathetics!
    Or should I say: Bush the apathetics!!!
     
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