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Fishing

Discussion in 'Alley of Dangerous Angles' started by Dead_Blo, Nov 5, 2005.

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  1. Dead_Blo Gems: 1/31
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    Who thinks fishing is a sport?
    Is fishing ethical or not? Is fishing a family event?

    I think that fishing is considered a sport and can be an excellent family outing and if you eat what you cacth its ok.
     
    Dead_Blo, Nov 5, 2005
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    Sport: :hahaerr: A passtime maybe, but not a sport unless you consider the reeling to be the only thing it consists of.

    Ethical: not a chance. How'd you like having a steel hook through your lip pull you underwater for five minutes? (My dad actually got hooked once by a drunk buddy, so I can assure you it's no fun.)

    Family event: That depends if you mean fishing as getting drunk of your a$$ on a boat, casting from the shore, fly-fishing, or whatever. Certain types (like drunk) don't lend themselves to family outings, but most types of torturing aquatics can be fun for the whole family. ;)
     
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    Fishing is perfectly ethical most of the time, as one generally (or I generally) tend to catch nothing at all.
     
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    Saber A revolution without dancing is not worth having! Veteran

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    The only time fishing is unethical (IMO) is when the huge boats with huge nets kill whatever else (dolphins, whales) that get stuck in the nets. Fishing for a living, and for fun is great.
     
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    I second that :)
     
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    It's unethical when there's collateral damage (like the nets that kill dolphins) or when the fish fished isn't eaten but thrown away. Or when people fish and let fish go after taking a photo and think it's so ethical. But what about the hook piercing through the fish's "cheeks"? Not good. I don't like the idea of leaving fish to die from suffocating and sun heat.
     
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    I harpoon fish, that is a true test of skill. There is nothing wrong with fishing as long as there is no waste. Anyone see that SouthPark episode where the kids go hunting and they grenade the fishes? That was funny.
     
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    Fishing is not a sport. It's ok if you kill the fish and eat it. Preferably, kill it when you get it up from the water.
     
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    Shell Awww, come and give me a big hug!

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    What do you think the huge boats with huge nets are doing this for? They're earning their living :lol:
     
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    Fishing is a great sport (in its true definition of a recreational activity), but I guess not one for the PETA members this board seems to be awash in. Lots of killing and such.

    When I was a kid and we'd visit my dad's family in North Dakota, we'd fish all the time; it was a great family experience. We'd use many different lures, and live bait such as minnows, leeches, frogs etc. (Oh no! More killing!). I remember even catching frogs along the lakeshore to use as bait (nothing's better than using something from the area in which you're fishing).

    We'd catch 'em, put 'em live back on strings/metal-mesh baskets in the lake until it was time to leave, then let them suffocate in the trunk of the car on the way back to the farm. Good eatin'! Mmmmm...mmmm! Walleye, Northern Pike, Perch, Smallmouth Bass.... yummy.

    Oh and for those of you against catch-and-release: Anything smaller than a certain size for most game fish had to be released as long as it was likely to survive; which is most of what you catch if you're skillfull. Most of the time you catch them by the boney lips and there's no blood even, but if you let them swallow the hook before setting it, you can seriously injure the fish, and it's much more difficult to remove the hook.
     
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    Morgoroth Just because I happen to have tentacles, it doesn'

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    Well I'll agree pretty much with what BTA said. Except for the frogs, they're a protected species around here so using them as bait would be illegal. ;)
     
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    /me sticks nose inside

    One dares to strip hunting of its pseudoromantic flair and –- nefarious PETA must of course get a honorable mention. Isnt life ever unpredictable. :D

    Nice touch, BTA. You have forgotten nothing about baiting. Some more reminiscing on the frog part and I am all yours. :shake:
     
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    In my opinion, fishing is great. Its relaxing and entertaining. I would only find fishing unethical if somebody took like 100 fish when the limit was 3 :(
     
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  14. Chandos the Red

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    Yes, earning their living at the expense of everyone else...
     
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    I think fishing is ok when you are just using a rod and a fly to catch fish. I disagree with the use of huge nets to catch fish because we have fish farms to raise and sell fish to the grocery stores. :confused:
     
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    Tehehe Dendri :) I must admit to a bit of baiting up there (after all this is a fishin' thread :lol: ), but in all honesty, I was not taking any shots at people who do not like killing of any kind; it's certainly an admirable position to have. Just not one I happen to share.
     
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    Fishing for compliments is unethical because it is misleading.
     
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  18. Gnarfflinger

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    If nobody fished, how would we have fish to eat?
     
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    I'm with Lao Tzu on this one

    People catching fish to eat is fine the problem comes when you overfish and thereby don't have sustainable stocks. Factory fishing is a major problem not only does it devestate fish stocks but it is indiscriminate in the fish it catches, kills and throws away. To see how bad the problem is in Europe you only have to look at the fishing quotas here and realise after this was agreed fishermen in the UK, France and Spain particularly protested against them.
     
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    Give me a break. They're earning their living providing food for others. Most of the food industry is give and take. Farmers use fertilizers, herbacides and insecticides to increase production. Fishermen use huge nets and catch a few other sea creatures. If you don't like that -- stop eating sea food.

    I am really only against whaling (close to fishing).

    To get back on the specific type of fishing addressed in this topic:

    Not a sport. I don't care if it is on ESPN2.

    Not unethical (although those against hunting and for fishing are a bit loonie to me).
     
    T2Bruno, Nov 7, 2005
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