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Move silently?

Discussion in 'BG2: Shadows of Amn (Classic)' started by ivanatora, May 5, 2002.

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    For what use is it ? Does it help for hiding in shadows? What about the other tief abilities mentioned in the maual : climb walls and read languages? I haven't seen wall for climbing yet...
     
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    Presumably move silently will help you remain hidden in shadows as you move, but I don't know how it was implemented in the game.

    Cimb walls and read languages have no use.

    [This message has been edited by Blackthorne TA (edited May 05, 2002).]
     
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    What BTA said is correct and it is implemented in the game.
     
    Extremist, May 5, 2002
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    I read somewhere that it helps when stealing stuff out chests and stuff. In the way that stops guards coming. I'm probably wrong though.
     
    Buddas Hand, May 5, 2002
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    I think its use is when you are in shadows enemys can't hear you so mages wont cast detect invisibilty type spells. Yoshimo has about 100 HIS 60 MS and triggers such spells where as my 120 in both thief can run rings around them without being detected. Of course this could all be in my head :p
     
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    Ribald, Tolgerias, the fella in the sewers...nearly everyone I think...will *always* cast true sight if you enter a room invisibly or hidden in shadows. Go and get yourself a cloak of non-detection.
     
    Gonzago, May 5, 2002
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    My assassin had 250 MS & HIS and yet the mages casts True Sight.. major bug or what?
     
    spetznaz, May 5, 2002
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    Not all the mages do, I think its only the Major ones. Then again, the one up in the Dale of the Seven Vales might not have True Sight in his spell book.

    [edit] No its not a bug [/edit]

    [This message has been edited by DeBhaal Stasion (edited May 05, 2002).]
     
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    Spetznaz, reread Gonzago's post. There is no bug, it all works as it should. Too bad enemies don't get Detect Illusion skill too...
     
    Extremist, May 5, 2002
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    Cloak of non-detection is useless. Doesnt work against true sight and that is the only invisibility dispeller that needs to be feared. IMO its a bug that every single mage knows that someone is hiding in shadows and they cast true sight, you cant hear invisible foes, how can they hear your 150+ MV thief?
    Either a bug or a very annoyin feature.
     
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    [​IMG] Wait, wait, this is the second thread in which I've seen that claim about the Cloak of Nondetection. I used the Cloak many times both on my Archer and on Valygar, and they were not detected by True Sight. Have I gone insane, or has the Cloak been changed at some point?
     
    Blackthorne TA, May 6, 2002
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    BTA, same with me.
    Except, it worked as far as when I happened to come visible, and then tried to go back to invisible. I dont know if it is a bug or not.
     
    DeBhaal Stasion, May 7, 2002
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    Cloak of Non-Detection definetly works against True Sight unless the True Sight is casted forcefully to bypass possible wards against it (yes, it can be made).

    The non-detection bypassing is probably used in encounters where your NPC must receive a dialog with someone to proceed with the quest. If this wouldn't happen, you would be stuck unless your invisibility is gone.
    Any you may find such "invisible=stuck" points in the game actually.
     
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    One such spot is on Saemons Ship in Brynlaw. I tried to hide in shadows about 20 times with a 120 MS 120 HIS character.
     
    Zakar, May 7, 2002
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    [​IMG] HIS and MS is a rather useful thing for a thief to do to get into position for backstabbing.
     
    Xuncle, May 7, 2002
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