Surprise....

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Has anyone else here been really surprised when a Lich or Dragon that seemed to be kicking their ass dies.

It seems to me that almost every time I fight one of these things, it seems to be that I'm getting my ass kicked and then suddenly it seems to die. I know that it is actually legit, 'cos I've had my fighters and mages hitting it while it's been beating me up.

But it still seems surprising when a dragon just falls over or a lich splatters and dies.

 

yep. Yesterday I killed the Shadow Lich, it had some protective globe about it and I was managing the fight not reading the text scrolling by at the bottom of the screen. I'm thinking I have to keep everyone alive until it's protection wears off. I had just had 3 npc's cast spells to summon help when plop the lich falls over dead. I don't even know what killed him Carsomy, Crom Fayer, or the bolt of glory spell, or maybe a magic missle. With dragons I always thought, "aren't you dead yet" because I always had 5 summoned creatures mostly elementals in addition to my fighter pounding it along with all the magic missles the party had.

 

That's exactly what I mean. I almost never check the text box during a fight and I almost always end up summoning more help just before it dies makeing that help now redundant.

 

I seem to remember there was one particularily nasty flayer, who had me rest twice because of limited ressurection capacities. But I don't remember his name.
I was rqather surprised at the level of challenge this littel dungeon posed after the underdark, where I got through the flayer hideout pretty quickly with only one casualty.

 

Yeah I had a harder time with the rest of the flayers then I did with Alhoon. Of course death fog seems to work pretty good on him when his resistances are lowered.

 

I know what regular Ilithids are but what are ulitharids, id like to know cause theyre not in the monstrous manual and its kinda annoying not what youre fighting.

 

and Ulitharids seem to be able to kill instantly without a stunning attack or anything... and seem to do this much more easily than a traditional Mind Flayer.

what the hell is an Aldoon? or is that just it's name?

 

I think it's just his name.
My Fighter /Thief carved him into tiny squid pieces, easy to deep fry and good with a little lemon!
I just finished that particulare dungeon.

 

ooooops!

cheers Tal

 

Some liches are (with a little bit of cheating I suppose) pretty easy to beat.
When a Lich is in a house with a basement, where you can go downstairs to his tomb, you must leave all your characters at the stairs and let one character (hasted) open the tomb. The lich will come out and first it will cast a lot of protections. You run like hell back to your group and then you go upstairs. You rest a while, explore something else and return after a couple of hours/days. Then enter the basement again, and the lich will have no more protections.
Let your mages cast magic missile so it isn't able to cast any protections and let your (hasted) fighters run to him. Every time I do this I kill the lich before he has cast one spell. But it seems kind of cheating...

 

Oh, that's not cheating but it's the strategy. I did the same each time I met very powerful mage (also sometime with dragon).

 

BTA remember, that only paladins are required to hand over their brains (reducing int to 3 standard AI) when entering the order . Other classes are free to use their intelligence, and by all means should do so!

 

OMG, a tenticled facerd moron crossed with a basket headed moron, someone save me....

 

Well, don't wait exactly days...
Just walk a little...
BTW: Some Liches forget to cast protection from evil upon themselves, when they cast a (pit) fiend... They're so stupid...!
So when you go away, the fiend will attack the lich and do, what 70, damage or so?!
At least that's what I saw, when I fisrt met one... Ofcourse, it didn't do that again... Because he had only time to defend himself and couldn't attack