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Aldeth sashentar

Discussion in 'Baldur's Gate (Classic)' started by Crawl, Sep 30, 2001.

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    Well, honestly, I kept skipping over it. I didn't relly know who I should help either to be doing the right thing. Eventually, I skipped over them so much that Aldeth just disapeared, never to be seen again. I didn't get to do the quest or meet him or his relatives in BG. Guess he ends his hunting trip early without incident if your party doesn't interfere.
     
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    In the past I killed him. So no Baldur's Gate quest with him, but if you want to "go the good path" then maybe detect alignment and see who is really evil, him, the druids, or neither. That might help. You would think the druids neutral, but it wouldn't hurt to check anyways.
     
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    a noble who wishes to be protected from a group of savages. Agree to help him and kill all the druids. Later in the game, Aldeth will be involved in a much bigger and more important quest, which isn’t the case if you kill him. As soon as he leaves, he mentions The Baldur’s Gate merchant league, to give you an idea… OK i got that out of a good walkthrought but which way is better should i kill the druids or help the noble man i want to go the good way not evil btw.
     
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    hmmm well unless someone has dont it i guess the only real way to do it is to go back to him when i get into baldurs gate and see what is the right way to go
     
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    He's a good guy, and if you help him, later in Baldurs Gate he will give you a good quest, where you can get a great bastard sword! This quest also has a link to the main plot. the druids are shadowdruids and considered to be evil.

    [This message has been edited by Alyr Arkhon (edited October 01, 2001).]
     
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    [​IMG] Indeed he has a great bastard sword. Since the sword can be pickpocketed there is no need to kill him anyway (a bunch of uncivilised and unsophisticated thugs you are :p ) and Aldeth is a nice guy so killing him is an "unfriendly act".

    And actually, iirc, you'll get more xp from killing the druids than for killing him ;) just in case you need more arguments for the good part ;)
     
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    Everybody forgots one thing. The best crossbow in the game. The sword you always get, no matter what way you choose. Aldeth doesn't have a good alignment. When you decide not to help him, you will encounter his brother, Dabron Sashenstar later, in BG central map, near the Gate. He will attack you for he heard that you didn't help his brother. Kill him, and you will get the best Crossbow in the Game: The Heavy Crossbow of Accuracy (+2 damage, +5 Thac0)

    Helping Senyad and not Aldeth won't give you a reputation decrease, and the Merchant's League quest isn't interesting, it only gives some more XP. With the Crossbow you easier get XP and that gap level is low enough :)
     
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    [​IMG] The merchants league quest does have stuff to do with the storyline line though if you're wanting to experience the full story. Not nescessary, but interesting and does yeild a fair bit of XP too.
     
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    What way you choose, both aren't bad for your reputation, and I don't think there's a good and a bad way. Whatever path you choose, you always kill someone that says that he is innocent. You have tro choose between the Sashenstar family and a couple of crazy Druids, and I choose for the Heavy Crossbow of Accuracy, wich is very usefull in thes parts of the game.
     
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    Thanks for posting that Headbanger! I had forgotten where I found that crossbow in my first game...
     
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    Your welcome. Many never had that crossbow for they always helped Adeth Sashenstar. But the bow does +2 damage and +5 Thac0 so is definetly the best ranged weapon in the game.
     
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    thank you, headbanger! i heard about that xbow, but didn't know where
     
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    I don't know if I agree with you there, Headbanger. In my opinion, the Long bow of Markmanship is the best ranged weapon in the game. I think that the extra attack make up for the lower Thac0, and the greater variety of arrows is good as well. The crossbows are just so damn slow, but this one is certainly a good weapon.
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    The good thing about the Long Bow of Markmanship is that you get it earlier in the game then the Heavy Crossbow of Accuracy. The Long Bow of Markmanship is indeed faster (speed factor of 5, HCoA has 7) so that's faster then the Crossbow but not twice as fast. The Crossbow has +2 bonus on Thac0, compared with the LBoM.

    The good thing about Crossbow's is that Crossbows are not proficient as Bow but as Missile weapons.I normally use the HCoA for one of my fighters. In the beginning of the game my fighters need a better AC. In that part, I let them fight with Sword and Shield, and with a sling, not with a bow for then they can't use a shield that gives AC bonus. To make the fighters capable to fight with sling, I also give them a profiency on missile weapons. So normally my fighters already have Missile Weapon Profiency so they have better Thac0 and do more damage with the Crossbow also. When you wanna let them fight with bow, they are less good with sling in the beginning or have to fight with a worse AC (no shield) in the beginning, when they need AC as low as possible. So I don't have to "spoil" profiencies on bow but put all in Missile Weapons and Long Sword only.
     
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    I have just aquired the HCoA and now I use it on my halfling fighter-thief (about 80.000 xp). It is excellent for snipe & fade away attacks:
    With the ring of infravision my char can sneak in range of opponents to fire one aimed shot killing kobolds/ robbers/ Hobgoblins instantly.
    But this weapon has one major disadvantage: It just offers the same attack rate like a melee attack; a bow gives one attack more and that's why I prefer it in major encounters.
     
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    Well that's indeed right, however with weapon specialization, you can also get more attacks per round. What I already told, I normally use sword, sling and shield in the beginning and when you also have 3 proficiencies on missile weapons, you are also faster then when you have less bow proficiencies.
     
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    Maybe so, but what if you have mastery in bows then? That would make them really fast.

    I rarely engage in melee in the beginning, because a couple of guys armed with bows (well, maybe one of 'em has a crossbow) make pretty short work of just about anything. Therefore I don't need AC until Greywolf shows up. :)
     
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    Hmm, seriously, my actual dwarven fighter (one of the three shorties) is at lvl-7 now and has **** max prof slots. I'm not quite sure if he gets another one once he reached 125k xp. Is it at all possible to achieve grandmastery in BG-1 ??!

    My receipe to get rid of archers is to melee them. Use the haste spell if possible. Get yourself two fighters with *large* shields and preferably platemails, boots of avoidance or girdle of piercing and rush to the enemy archers to draw them in melee - ta-dah! - misile fire stops ;)

    an alternative approach is shown here :) http://www.sorcerers.net/ubb/Forum1/HTML/000452.html (2nd last post at the end of page)

    and there still is no hope for any robber to survive sneak & fade sniper attacks or fireballs from scouting illusionist-thiefes ;)

    [This message has been edited by Ragusa (edited October 10, 2001).]
     
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    Ragusa, just use Thiefs and Backstab them. ;)

    It is possible to reach Grandmastery in BG but not necessary. I think it's more important to get a character with a great melee AND ranged attack. For each profiency slot is necessary, you indeed should choose between bow and crossbow, bow and missile weapon specialization. The advantage of Missile Weapon specializationis that it's very usefull in the beginning of the game for a fighter, for you can use a shield and so receive a better AC and still have a ranged attack option.
     
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    [​IMG] Even backstabbing gets boring after a while, headbanger .... ;) :p
    However, it is a really nice way to get rid of robbers, sure :grin:
     
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