Does Elminster Die?

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He gets eaten by dopplegangers doesn't he?

 

In BG? Nah, he lives.

Sylvus

 

Elminster is the most famous person in the Realms (curses to Ed Greenwood for his lame character names). He will never ever die. He saves the realm on the average of 4 times a day. Some pesky little dopplegangers will not be able to stop him.
What you saw was a doppleganger disguised as the Great E (I refuse to type that name anymore).

 

El is a good name, much better than the overly used Raistlin which I no doubt spelt wrong in the first place.

Raistlin and Drizzt' can rot in the pits of hell for all I care.

Sylvus

 

Ofcourse not, Elminster is one of the signature characters of the ralms, and as such won't be offed unless WotC/TSR decide it would make a great book. Mind you, on average Ed Greenwood recieves 5 or 6 letters a day from people saying their character killed Elminster. What sad lives these people must lead if their only goal in the realms is to off Elminster...

 

Wow.....that's.....sick.

Why do you guys dislike Ed Greenwood, Elminster, Drizzt or Raistlin so much?

 

I don't, i like those chsrscters. They sort of give the setting some colour.

 

Well, my only grouse so far is that every campaign you go you always hear the same names: Khelben, Drizzt, Elminster and so on. And they're basically window dressing.

Like what does Elminster do in Baldur's Gate?

Geez.

I also heard the AD & D stories are sucky, but I don't know because I never read them.

 

I dislike Drizz't due to his popularity with people, always wanting to play Dark Elves and be a Ranger who has come forth from the Underdark as a saviour and hero and... just...makes...me...sick. It's been over used too much.

Raistlin is the exact same. Raistlin this, Raistlin that, people using the name as a handle, a nick, alias...just...makes...me...sick. Originality people.

Elminster on the other hand is too cool. He doesn't stick out like a sore thumb the way the other two mentioned above do or at least with "fans" wanting to be like him or use his name.

I think I've come to hate the people who use Driztt and Raistlin more because of the way they post on message boards.

"yO! R dark elfs in da game cuz i wanna get da bonus elf stuff and magic items and kick some ass yo!" as an example for someone using the name Drizzt.

The idea was great when the books came out, but it seems like he's appearing in these games (BG, BG2) just for the sake of popularity with people who follow and love him so much. To me, bury him 6 feet under already and come up with a new hero.

Syl...

 

Ah, I understand what you mean Syl, and I agree too! I have the same problem with people that call themselves "BSB-Nick Carter" or "Britney Spears".

Do you guys read any of those AD & D books? Are they any good at all? I'm not really into fantasy and if it weren't for Baldur's Gate or Planescape: Torment I wouldn't even know about AD & D either.

I flicked through a book called "Waterdeep" however, and it seemed to suck. Cheesy names and characterization, etc. Not exactly Tolkienesque.

I might be biased though. If you guys say it's worth a read I'll go and read it.

 

I've read a few of them, mostly The Harper series. Good reads are Tolkien, David Eddings and Robert Jordan if you like long epic tales of fantasy. By far the three best IMO.

Syl...

 

Tolkien is great, although I found all that talk about honour and heraldry and elves quite boring.

Then I read Don Quixote, and MY, what an interesting contrast, hehe!

 

Tolkien is great, I agree, but have any of you read books by Anne McCaffrey??
They're quite good and give an alternate perspective to science fiction.

 

Drizzt is too much of a goody-two shoes. For someone who has as dark of a past as he, he's a canidate for the "Shirley Temple doo-gooder's club".

I hate Ed Greenwood because I made the mistake of buying two of his books and have been upset ever since. This guy just can't write!

Most of the earlier forgotten realms books are pretty good. The Moonshae trilogy (Douglas Niles), the Alias books (Grubb Novak), Salvatore's Cleric Quintet. They don't seem to be doing that many series anymore, most of the new books are about the Harpers (whom I'm getting awfully sick of).

 

Phillip Athans is a no-talent ass-clown. BG2 is so juvinile I ended up finishing it in a few hours. I'd like to see some books on the Zhentarim, and the Red Wizards. I'd like to see them written by Greenwood, the third best fantasy writer ever. (Tolkein is first, and Feist is second).

 

I made the mistake of buying BG2 novel as well. It has shown me just how bad an author can be. Thinking of usuing my copy of it as novelty toilet paper Just as well i didn't find the BG novel over here, even though i looked for it everywhere.

 

you know, the pages are fairly durable

 

They should turn Drizzt evil, for the sake of goodness. He feels turning evil will better the side of good in the long run. That could make things interesting.

Syl...

 

So is Elminster & Gorian in the dungeons actually dopplegangers? I'm wondering coz after that you never see them again!