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I originally intended to post this in a response to the contraception topic, but it would really be off-topic, and could potentially take things in an entire new direction. I didn't want to hijack that thread, so I'm starting a new topic. In the aforementioned topic, Chevalier mentions (I hope he doesn't mind):

The context of his post lead me to believe that he felt this was wrong, and/or that no one should do this, and/or that he does not do this. To this all I can say is PUH-LEASE. I defy any man over the age of say, 14 to honestly claim that he has NEVER masturbated. I mean, that is really an impossible to believe statement. I imagine the same holds true for women as well, but having never been a woman, I can't say for sure what their drives are.

Still, every man has masturbated - I don't care who you are. Next we'll hear that some guys never had a wet dream either. In fact, I'd go so far to say if you have never masturbated and never had a wet dream, you may want to go see a doctor, because there's a stong possibility that some of your parts down there aren't working the way they should.

 

Done it? Hell, I thought I invented it. 13 years old, 2am, Skinamax was on...and I became a man.

/me secretly counts down the minutes until this topic gets locked down.

 

Do we all have to state the first w*nk?

 

I dont see what the purpose is of opening up a thread like this....next you'll be polling for the method.

 

I think it's more about the fascination with the denial of it, rather than the act itself. Everyone does it or has done it, and everyone knows it, yet there are some people who just can't admit it, or feel there's some shame in being a curious human. And that's amusing, to me at least.

As for a poll on the methods...you mean there's more than one?

@ TKC - No you don't; I just have no shame.

 

Thanks for putting it so eloquently BTA. Yes, that's the general thought. I didn't think contraception and masturbation were closely enough linked to be argued over in the same thread. I wasn't asking people to relate their first experience, but that's why we enjoy DR's posts.

 

Masturbation? There is nothing wrong with masturbation, everyone masturbates it's perfectly healthy.

 

I totally agree Sarevok. This thread came up sometime before and I got a bit of a lashing from a few people for saying that.

I'd be worried if my old boy didn't stand to attention.

Nothing wrong with shaking hands with the unemployed.

 

Masturbation is a perfectly normal (and enjoyable ) part of growing up; wet dreams, however, were something I would have rather done without.

 

Dissing masturbation is only another manifestation of some parts of society desire to make people feel bad and thus control their lives. It also makes those very same people feel superior, even if they themselves dont follow their own words. Guilt is ever a powerful weapon when employed against the minds of the gullible.

 

I have NEVER, during the course of today, masturbated.

**(saving spot for future edit)**

 

I don't see what the big deal is. I mean, as long as people do it in the privacy of their own home, and don't go announcing that they do it (some humility is required, hint hint DR). I mean, man has been doing it since, well, forever.

It is nature, so let nature be.

 

Masturbation is safest sex possible. Almost every healthy mature person feels sexual desire. Why not explore it within safe and private boundaries. Much better than having unsafe sex and risking disease and pregnancy etc.

 

Masturbation also offers both men and women the opportunity to learn about their own sexuality. Knowing what things you like and what things you don't, what things turn you on and off, will make a big difference when you are having sex with another person.

 

I have an exam on Tuesday, a whole-package site to make (sort of mini portal) and a couple other things to attend to, so I'm not going to enter in deep discussion on medical aspects.

Bible-wise it's wrong, so if you claim to be Christian or Jewish or Muslim (the latter two for the OT) and at the same time you claim that masturbation is OK you have a contradiction in your beliefs. If you aren't, I'm not going to chase after you with the Bible, don't worry.

And not like I'm going to play crusader or start preaching.

The basic idea is that it's treating yourself as an item. Focusing on the body with complete disregard of the emotional side and feelings is hardly healthy. It's still abuse, sort of like mutilating yourself out of your own free will, for instance.

Autoerotism, as it is, is sick. It's a more physically expressed form of narcism. And that's a bad thing. Why? Should I prove that? Once can't prove something to be good or bad. As someone said, people typically know the scent of violet from the scent of cow waste and typically prefer the former.

But here you state all people masturbate. Can't agree. But most, or nearly all, would be it. Still, people aren't willing to call something they like doing bad. They'd rather call bad something that someone else is doing.

Anyway, looks like I'm not going to convince you if you really like masturbating, anyway.

As you defy, I state I have never done that. By never I don't mean never on a constant basis. I mean never like not a single time.

Wet dreams are a normal thing in men and shouldn't be put in the same category as masturbation. They are, first of all, not self-inflicted. They just happen. Masturbation doesn't just happen. Moving your hand up and down in a frequently repetitive manner typically involves some act of will unless you're addicted to it and should be treated.

 

Hmmm, it is interesting to read these points of view. I had no idea people had such strong opinions on this topic. I, personally, can't see who is being hurt by this activity. There are so many worse things that people can do to themselves and others that this can hardly rate as a big issue either way.

 

Well for many years the masturbation was considered from the majority (not to say the whole body) of the scientific society as an evil and sick action, which had as an effect (after continuous use) blindness and extreme growth of hair on the hands. Of course this theory was laughable and now is only a simple quote in a history book about medicine. Today scientists say that is healthy and better to masturbate than to have no sex at all. Scientists also agree that the effects that were previously stated have nothing to do with the said action.
Psycologists also say that the sexual maturity of a person is going through three stages ( i am too lazy to find URLs go and read a book for a change). The self - love step is among these steps and masturbation is a tottaly physical action. Anyway there should always be a measure in everything and too much masturbation may turn one into an unsocial person with little or not at all interest in finding a love partner.

Chevy can you please at least tell me where in the Bible says that masturbation is a sin? I don't recall something like this Here in Greece we just do not refer on the subject even in church, we think it is tottally personal and not a sin. Secondly noone is sinless and if my sin is that i give myself from time to time a little joy then i stand guilty and i don't give a damn.

Autoerotism does not mean masturbation. At least here in Greece the words which are used for masturbation, and not a clinical condition of it, are Malakia (slung), Avnanismos (formal). The latter is coming from Avnan the Jewish priest who denied to make pregnant his dead brothrs wife as the jewish law demanded and spilled his sperm on the ground everytime. He was punished by God and the place were the sperm fell opened some flower came out and finally these flowers were transformed to humans. Autoerotism is another expression of narcism, which is BTW another Greek word from Narcissus the beautifull guy Artemis loved. To be a narcist does not mean that you masturbate. It just happens that you can not be interested it in anything else other than yourself. Which does not mean that you won't go with a woman just to prove that yourself is worth loving. She will be abandonded the next day but it does not matter.

Well i don't agree with that. When one is masturbating, he/she is using his/her imagination fantasing an erotic encounter with someone. At least the normal ones do not wake up in the morning and say "hey i have nothing to do lets masturbate". There must be a theme to arouse the lust for having sex. It is like a concious wet dream. You don't treat yourself like an item, instead i would say that you treat yourself with love. But the way one may see masturbation is also greatly affected by the teaching one received by his family on that subject.
There is a saying in Greece "If masturbation succeeds, sex is nothing compared to it" more or less translation.

 

I would say that sexual interest is not love. It's a different category. If you treat yourself with a sexual interest, it doesn't mean any plausible loving approach or something.

The sin of Onan is the Biblical link, and it's mentioned in several places.

Autoerotism and masturbation aren't the same - as you correctly say. Autoerotism is, basically, treating your own body as a sex object. It practically amounts to masturbation, but not fully - agreed.

Oh well... I don't love myself *that* way. I mean, I value myself as a friend, and I'm a bright, charming and handsome guy and all, but I don't want to f*.* myself. So let's be just friends