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Somthing that occoured to me recently when thinking about how much i hate my name, is why were you christened?. I'm guessing that like me, most of you probably were christened and connfirmed into a church when you were a baby, but what really was the point? At that young age we would have no idea what was going on and (no offence) i think it would be a waste of time.
I myself cannot confess to going to church every Sunday, but that is my point, who does in this age of alcohol, sex and drugs?

 

A cristening is a completewly meaningless cermoney. Religion is a personal thing. A baby has no decicsion of his own. It is entirely for the parents gratificsation.

 

I do. I'm a staunch Christian. It's not exactly an easy time to be one, especially a fundamentalist like me, but who needs easy anyway. Entertainment is all very well and good, but you still come up empty at the end of the day. Being a Christian is way more fulfilling than being a partier.

EDIT: I agree with Luan.... being baptized as a baby doesn't mean anything. It's only your personal choice that matters.

[This message has been edited by Capstone (edited September 14, 2001).]

 

I suppose it depends on your religion. Being a confirmed catholic... I was baptized as a baby... Went to communion class at 8 in order to receive communion in church, was confirmed Catholic at about 9 or 10. I'm not a practicing catholic, I don't go to church but I am religious. I don't believe achieving these goals at birth exempts you from going to hell by any means.. Certain religions believe that "once saved, always saved" They'll be in hell first if they think they can do whatever they want because of "religious immunity"

 

God, not *another* religion topic. My name has got to be the weirdest name in all of SP. It has nothing to do with getting baptized when you are only a foot and 25lbs.

 

I don't think people really believe that it has some impact on the child's soul. I think it's just an important ceramony to many parants and a chance to introduce their child to their church, or perhaps just a declaration that they will raise their child into their religion and according to their religion. Now a more important question is why do churches presssure young children to get baptized as young as possible? And why is baptism even important anyway? That's neither here nor their really, though. I'd just think any confession of faith for a small child is, well, cute maybe....but they really won't know what that means to them personally till later in their life. And if I may say so, I don't think a church or religion should push or try to convince anyone to make such a profession of faith. Such a thing is personal and noone should be pushed into it by being made to feel guilty or whatever.

Wow....that really got off topic didn't it? Sorry bout my rant...I usually aviod reilgious topics like the plauge as they just end in argument, and I don't know why so many people insist on posting them here on a game site (especially when the usual sentiment around here is anti-religious) *shrugs*).

 

going religious again are we?

 

Being a christian is not about going to church. I consider myself as a perfectly good christian, but I never go to church. It is boring, and therefor no use.

To all who say they can't choose:
When you are very small, your parents make your decissions. I believe that when you reach the age of 15, you get to make that choise on your own.

 

I'm a christian, not that i care, religion should be forbidden, keeps us from evolution

 

If you want to read the reasons the Catholic Church has for infant baptism (which Christianity has practiced since its inception), you can go to http://www.christusrex.org/www1/CDHN/ccc.html

It does make a difference.

 

im of the belief that nothing good comes from religion, and that we would be better of without it. Dont start cursing at me before i get a chance to explain myself:
A lot of the problems of this world is because of religion (at least on the surface)
Take the Crusades for Example: They were only used for A: making some money for the merchants who sold armor and weapons (and of course for the leaders of the countries that were involved, and B: getting rid of some of the young nobles who were only making touble.
But they (the leaders) used religion to cover it and therefor made it "Holy war", and thousands of people died.
A lot of other wars are started because of religion, people thinking that their religion is the "better", and therefore wanting to kill everyone who doesnt believe as they do. Or we can take Hitler For example he wanted to kill all Jews because he thought they were "unclean".

If you think like I do, you will see my point andprobably agree with me, so MY point of view is that religion is a bad thing.
By the way im neither Baptized or Confirmed and i never intend to become neither of them.

 

The crusades have ended. Christian people now know how to behave, and religion has guided us that way. I doubt there are many countries in Europe or America who have constitutions not based on Christian guidelines.

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Sooo, Christians know how to behave, do they...
Please let me remind you of a place called Northern Ireland, Do you remember what happened there last week: Bricks and minor bombs were thrown after schoolgirls, all because they were protestants, Now does that strike you as "good" behaviour??
To me it just serves as a new brick in my "anti-religion wall" you see, those people who threw those objects were all Catholics so it wasnt even different religions just two sides of the same thing. And the parents of the girls still walk the girls to school by the same path as they always did, and as they did the day they were attacked, and all because they're PROUD!!

So, NO. I dont believe Christians (Or most members of any other religion, for that matter) now "Know how to behave"

(Everybody,please remember that i am talking about some members of these religions not all. I'm not condemning anybody.)

 

Er, as compared to the enlightenment of the socialists perhaps? Say the Marxists for example... Communism and their related breeds... they do the same thing, persecuting Christians and other religions; torturing, imprisoning and even killing them.

Social beliefs do not have to be religious in nature to provide a cover for evil.

 

Actually, Firestorm, it was the Protestants throwing things at Catholic school children.

Your understanding of the Crusades is way off too.

Religion is highly motivating. Anything that can be such a great motivator can be turned to evil ends when corrupted.

But to say religion does nothing good is ridiculous. For when properly understood it leads to things like Mother Theresa's care for the poor in India, which is just one example of the ways religious people (not just clergy) sacrifice their own wellbeing to help others. They're doing it because their religion tells them to. Right here in DC a group of nuns and secular volunteers take care of AIDS patients.

My roommate went to help at one. The patients were trying to bite them.

They still helped. Because of religion.

It feels good to make totalizing statements like "religion does nothing good." That way you can dismiss it and comfort yourself for not having a religion of your own. But it is inaccurate, and it is harmful to yourself.

 

Some of what you are saying is true Shralp, and perhaps i got it mixed around with the Catholics/protestants. But some of my i know is true, especially the part about the crusades, im 110% sure about that one, The "salvation" of Jeusalem was on the back-burner, it was primarily for bolstering the pope's influence, and for getting rid of young noble who were causing trouble.
And i know that some religious people are really good people for example the buddhistic monks.

 

Shralp, no offense, but infant baptism really has no support in the Bible. Baptism is the "outward demonstration of the inward heart" as Paul stated. Peter also makes it clear that baptism follows repentance, and is symbolic of the believer's death and resurrection in Christ. Note that if baptism is the outward demonstration, as Paul says, then it does not actually "bring about the birth of water and Spirit" as the catechism states. For it is "not by works that we are saved, but by faith, and that not of ourselves; for it is by the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ."

The Bible does make mention of Jesus blessing the children; also of Old Testament mothers dedicating their children to God. However, baptising an infant by no means ensures his salvation.