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Lord of the Rings?

Discussion in 'Dungeons & Dragons + Other RPGs' started by ywpark89, May 16, 2002.

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    Is there anywhere in the handbooks about the stats and classes of Aragorn, Legolas, Gimli, Gandalf, Bormir, anf Frodo?
     
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    [​IMG] Nope. Nothing official anyway.
     
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    BE creative... make them yourself :)
     
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    [​IMG] Lord of the Rings has nothing to do with D&D. There have been many attempts to create the stats for these characters but it's all opinion. As Headbanger suggests make them up. I remember seeing a thread that talked about this on SP before so try a search and take a look at what we came up with.
     
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    well, that's not hard to make up...

    Aragorn: Ranger/Cleric
    Gandalf: High level Mage / Low level Fighter
    Legolas: Archer (Ranger Kit)
    Eowyn: Fighter or Paladin
    Faramir: Ranger
    Frodo: Thief

    etc. The only thing you have to do it to give them stats like constitution, Strength etc. Well I suppose you can do that by yourself :)
     
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    Why is Araggorn a R/C? He uses sword,right?
     
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    So? A Ranger/Cleric can also use swords very well. He was a Dunedain and almost all Dunedains where rangers. Aragorn tells in LoTR that he often wandered in the wild and that the Dunedain protected the borders of the Shire. That explains the Ranger-class.

    The Cleric class is also logical, though I think Aragorn would have a higher Ranger class then Cleric class. Aragorn wasn't religious like D&D-clerics are, but he did have great healing skills. You see that when he helps Frodo with wound of the morgul blade, and also in Minas Tirith where he heals Eowyn, Meriadoc and Faramir. The hands of the king are the hands of a healer.

    Of course a ranger has always some healing skills (cleric spells) but that is not enough to be compared with the healing skills of Aragorn
     
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    I see that the possibility of special abilities never crossed your mind. Everyone who heals doesn't have to be a cleric. And why is Gandalf a fighter/mage? He didn't seem very fighterlike to me.
     
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    Gandulf counts as a fighter B/c he fights to well otherwise and uses a sword (Glamding(sp?)) I think is its name
     
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    B/c? What's that, Bill Clinton? No l33t on the boards.

    Gandalf fights well otherwise? Odd, I don't remember him ever fighting anyone with a sword apart from the balrog, and if I remember the scene, it was augmented by magic. Not that it matters, as he didn't just kill the balrog and walk away. And as for wielding a sword... I don't think Tolkien sat writing his books with the silly AD&D rules on his desk, where a wizard can't hold a sword in his hand. (Hey guys, the gods granted me this mighty artifact sword, but I can't seem to hold it in my hands...)

    And the sword is Glamdring. (Ha! Robbed you the opportunity of boosting up post counts with a simple correction!)
     
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    [​IMG] Valor, you make some good points but in 3E (since this is the D&D forum) wizards along with ever other class can use swords. Just spend a feat on martial weapons and you are in business. And considering Gandalf's level as a simgle class wizard he's still have a rather good base attack adjustment. Add to that other feats and spells in increase fighting and you're one danagerous guy.

    Some goes on the Aragorn front. Aragorn is a high level Ranger and thus would have acess to 4th level spells. This would include spells like neutralize poison and cure serious. Thus I don't think he would need to be a cleric as well.
     
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    Well..... Gandalf is a bit better in fighting then a normal wizard would be... You can say that is because he has the ancient sword Glamdring wich was forged in the hidden kingdom of Gondolin and worn by the founder of Gondolin, Turgon himself... You can choose to let Gandalf be a pure mage, but in that case, he should really have a good strength, else he would in d&d have much less fighting skills then he has in Lord of the Rings. Gandalf should have a wisdom of 20 and intelligence of 19 or 20...

    Maybe you can make the race of Maia... +2 intelligence and +2 wisdom as bonus for example.
     
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    [​IMG] Well since the Maia are demigods I don't see that as an issue. If you have the Deities and demigods book for 3E D&D I'd look in the demigod section. Gandalf could easily have INT and WIS stats of 19 to 20 and a strength of 15 or 16. And if you are weilding a +3 or +4 magic weapon an extra +1 or +2 bonus from strength is not as important at 18th level. I mean a simple bull strength spell and you can add up to an additional 5 to STR.
     
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    Yes, but as everyone talked about kits and dualclasses, which don't exist in 3rd edition, I totally forgot ;) You don't even need to give him the feat, although it might be appropriate, considering he has carried that blade for so long.

    And why would a bearer of a mighty sword have to be good at using it? Not all shepherds bearing heron-mark swords have earned them in combat.
     
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    [​IMG] You're right that 3E doesn't use dualclassing or kits. The new multi-classing rules and feat/skill system are much better. But in 3E a mage only get simple weapons as a free class feat. You would need to take martial weapons or suffer a penalty. But this is nothing like the -5 you'd suffer in 2E for using a sword.
     
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    Gandalf does most of his sword slinging in in The Hobbit, where he cleaves the Great Goblin in twain and generally kicks a lot of orcish butt with his sword.

    Once he becomes Gandalf the White, he pretty much gives up using the sword, though he is still carrying it around.
     
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