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Most HP's? -- My ranger/cleric

Discussion in 'BG2: Throne of Bhaal (Classic)' started by Laches, Oct 30, 2002.

  1. Laches Gems: 19/31
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    has thrown me for a bit of a loop here. I started a multi-class ranger/cleric in BG1. With the tomes there I ended up with
    a str of 19
    dex of 19
    con of 19
    int of 12 (11 after loss of 1)
    wis of 21
    cha of 12

    I then imported him to BG2. I'm currently only at level 10/10. He has an astounding 188 hitpoints. The cheating I've done is switching to easy difficult during the level up to make sure that he gets the full hitpoints available. No shadowkeeper use or anything of that sort.

    So, what's going on here? What I'm thinking is the game must be bugged so that the bonus from the high constitution applies to a level up for both the cleric and the ranger class. I can't imagine that is supposed to happen, but maybe I'm just computing this wrong. Are those hitpoints correct? What's the highest hitpoint total anyone has seen, I'm thinking of creating a dwarf and going through BG1 just to take a look.
     
  2. Earl Grey

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    [​IMG] It does seem buggy.
    Your HP's should be:
    • (10+8) * 9 = 81 HP for levels 1-9
    • (3+2)/2 = 2.5 HP (rounded down to 2 I think) for level 10
    • 5*9 = 45 HP bonus from the 19 Constitution
    In total that should give you 81 + 2,5 + 45 = 128 HP's
    First I believe that characters often (or always?) get a few more HP's than theoretically possible when starting a new game of BG2, but that's just something like an extra 4-5 HP's.
    I'm not sure about importing. Maybe I'll check if this doesn't get cleared up.

    It could be that spells temporarily have added. An exampe is Larloch's Minor Drain, which you might have as a special ability. Make your character rest a couple of times and remove all equipment just as a precaution.

    If it doesn't change I'd recommend lowering the HP's by using Shadowkeeper.
     
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    It isn't any sort of spell temporarily adding hitpoints, it's just the way it is. When I use my cleric spells that buff up constitution I surge up to 212 I think, that 188 is naked, initially I thought it was 193 but realized I had the helm of balduran on. 188 is the number.

    I realized looking at the tables though that a constitution of 20 isn't supposed to be any more of a bonus than a con of 19, so when i was earlier wondering about going through BG1 with a dwarf it SHOULDN'T matter, of course, I shouldn't have as many hps as I have. I've never imported a fighter, but I could see how if this bug isn't a one time thing a dwarf with a con of 19 or 20 if he's allowed to choose a barbarian would really get ridiculous.

    Just curious. Thanks for the help.
     
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    Just curios...
    IIRC there are 2 tomes of wisdom in BG1 :) How did you have 21 wisdom when importing into BG2? :confused: :confused: :confused:
     
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    In the expansion, Tales of the Sword Coast, there is another tome of understanding in Durlag's Tower.
     
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    If you have CON 20 or more, your character gets natural regeneration (like Kagain in BG1)
     
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    I don't think they implemented natural regeneration into the game; not so far as I have seen anyway.
     
  8. Earl Grey

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    [​IMG] Oh yes, they did! Natural regeneration is there and has always worked.
    This is really great when you get Draw Upon Holy Might (DUHM) as a special ability and you have a decent Constitution to start with. Cast DUHM before sleeping if that gets your effective Con up to 19 or more and you will recover lots of HP's while sleeping.
     
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    Maybe this is what is happening?

    9d10=90 + 3 for level 10 = 93 + (9*5 or 45) for the con bonus = 138.

    Now, what I'm wondering is maybe the constitution bonus is being applied at each multi-class level up instead of being divided, that would be either another 45 or 50 points which, if it's 50 would put me at 188.

    Is this something others have seen with multi-class characters, or am I just the chosen of the gods. I'll fool around a bit to see if I can't see what the fuss is all about regarding these monks until I can decide what to do -- thanks
     
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    [​IMG] I don't have BG1 installed and am not too keen on reinstalling it so I can't test importing BG1 characters into BG2. Otherwise you could create BG1 characters, modify them with Gatekeeper and then import to BG2 and see what happens.
     
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