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The War on Porn

Discussion in 'Alley of Dangerous Angles' started by Aikanaro, Oct 11, 2005.

  1. Aikanaro Gems: 31/31
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    I've heard a bit about this so called 'war on porn' in the US recently, with the FBI cracking down on porn sites with 'unacceptable content'. This is crap.

    http://www.infoshop.org/inews/article.php?story=20051010121136948

    Seriously, what the hell? Is America going all fascist on us? When you can have your house raided and equipment siezed for owning a porn site ... hell - a *writing* site - that's screwed.

    [Edit to change link]

    [ October 12, 2005, 11:19: Message edited by: Aikanaro ]
     
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    I guess Mills and Boons publications better watch out:

    "with his hands clutching her sweaty waist, hot breath..."

    Yes ban this filth!
     
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    Arabwel Screaming towards Apotheosis Veteran

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    ... obviously they have never heard of free speech.

    Yet another attempt to distrract the people from the important things like, say, the economy, the global warning, the war in Iraq.... *shakes head*
     
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    It has always been so in US, apparently, for I saw only a little while ago a document about Hustler and its founder. Back then the rebublicans wanted to sush up people and still they do that, having a majority in the senate and even the president is an old fart with traditional views. But think positively: 51% voted for rebublicans to get this. They get what is coming for them. :D

    By the way, why can't they try closing down those annoying spam-porn-free-xxx-Pamela-Anderson sites instead of the good ones...?
     
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    In before the apologists.

    Also, someone tell the idiots in charge that you can't war against porn. Waddya gonna do, bomb their headquarters? This is almost as stupid as the War on Terro or the War on Drugs.

    Agreed. I said it the day after the election, and I say it again, they get what's coming for them. Except those that voted on anything that's not Republican, I feel for them.
     
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    War on porn won't work if you can't prevent people from acting the same way in real life. So you can shut down some magazines or manufactories but you can't make people dress up, stop lewd behaviour and so on, or guess what happens on the left side of the politics. :rolleyes: Not like legislation and police actions are an efficient way of doing that. Hmmm... paradox? Perhaps. After all, to change people's behaviour, we need to address the culture. Education, media, whatever. Means war on porn. And so the circle closes...
     
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    No, can't guess. Please elaborate.
     
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    Suppression of personal freedom and citizens' right, of course. It was but a rhetorical figure.
     
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    I'm sorry, but this is not the leftists' fault, this is entirely of the Fascist part of the right to blame with their morale police, not the left.
     
  10. T2Bruno

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    Child pornography is a major target of the FBI -- and it should be. Whether it is pictures or stories should make no difference. Graphic porn literature depicting child molestation (for the sole purpose of the reader's sexual gratification) SHOULD be closed down.

    Perhaps we may want to rethink the link given the topless woman that greets us when we click on it.

    Aikanaro, shame on you. You should have given a warning the link was to a porn site. (I guess the X in the name should have clued me in, I'm a little slow today).
     
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    @Rutkowski

    The left is just as guilty of suppressing free speech as the right. The left just calls it different things like "political correctness". Shouting down a republican/conservative speaker isn't "suppressing free speech" it is "a protest". In regards to porn, I'm sure you will find many if not all feminist groups opposed to it, and they tend to be leftist also.
     
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    Not for me. In fact, I scoured around on the website for a while, and while it's dedicated to report about the porn business, no pornographic images have yet to be seen.

    Off course, but this one isn't to blame on the left, this is entirely the rights', and only the rights', fault.
     
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    A porn advertisement shows up on the right -- perhaps it's random and only I have gotten it.
     
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    Yeah, couldn't say it better than Snook did. The left thinks it has a monopoly on everything "freedom" or "tolerance" but the reality is way behind the dreamy facade. Political correctness is a totalitarian system.
     
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    Aldeth the Foppish Idiot Armed with My Mallet O' Thinking Veteran

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    While I agree that child porn should be restricted and strongly enforced, that's not what this is about. It's about people 18 or over engaging in consensual sexual acts, being viewed by people 18 or over. What the hell is the problem? I'm not into that stuff, and maybe none of you are either, but I don't see the harm we're doing if this is adult content being viewed by adults. As Ara has already rightly pointed out, there are much more important matters to be dealing with. My tax dollars at work... on this...
     
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    First, I'm with T2Bruno - porn advertisement appeared on the right side of that site...and unless I'm mistaken posting such links is against rules here.

    @Aldeth - one problem with porn is that

    ...OFTEN LESS than 18. In fact most of those most interested in porn are either below 18, or above 40.
     
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    Most, but it's very close.
     
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    [​IMG] The link in the first post also holds the news article being discussed here, so it's rather hard to just kill the link, unless someone can provide an alternative link to the news story.
     
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    From the story, there were stories about having sex with children. That alone is enough to warrant shutting down the site and incarcerating the owner. Then when you throw in the other perverted **** (like beastiality), I conclude that it's no great loss to society. I guess that the FBI is truly a blessing...
     
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    Felinoid Who did the what now?

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    Maybe in Canada, but in the US we have something called freedom of speech. I may find such stories repugnant to the extreme, but unless these are "based on a true story" or "written from experience", there's no crime in writing a story. Noone's forced to read them, and the thought police aren't quite official yet. :p

    I actually think sites such as these could prove a great resource to the FBI and other law enforcement. If they could track who looked at the pedophile stories, they could quickly amass a list of people to keep an eye on. But simply shutting down a site just means a slight inconvenience to the pedophiles as they have to choose from the other 15 million sites. Or, worse yet, they may decide that it's time to start practicing. I'd rather have them whacking off to some words on a computer screen than violating a child.
     
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