ToB too easy?

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I have killed all the Bhaal spawn and is awaiting the final test in my pocket plane and i have done the whole of watchers keep and i have died one time. true i havent fought Demogorgon yet but that is because he is a chicken and wont show himself whatever i do. But i think it is too easy even on my third time through SoA i had to reload atleast five times. In ToB i have reloaded twice one time in Watchers keep first level because i seriousle underestimated the statues and went in to the fight with very low health and the other against Abizaigal because Korgan got chopped. Both those time it was my fault because i was cocky and didnt pay enough attention to my fighters health. Every time i have been going to meet a "tough" enemy i have thought the same thing lets go in and see what it is for a chap without any preparation and it has ended with flawless victory every time. I hope that Amelyssan, Ravager and Demogorgon if i can get him to show himself will be the same kind of challenge that Firkraag and the other dragons were in SoA.
Im not trying to boast and im beginning to think that i may have in some way lowered the difficulty level.
Well well is it someone else that think the same?

 

You can always up the difficulty level if you lowered it, you know.

Too easy? Perhaps, but not the bosses...and even then the sheer numbers of some of the opponents makes them fun, if not challenging. Amelyssan, if you haven't already fought her, is decidedly *not* too easy.

Unless you have a thief with loads of traps, but then it's not very much fun.

Edit: And there may be some patches out there (I know there's one for Balthazar, as well as for DG, if you can get him to show) that improves the boss's AI.

[This message has been edited by Gonzago (edited September 01, 2001).]

 

Well, it depends entirely on how you play your party. If you have a Sorcerer with Chain Contingency and Horrid Wilting, you'll be able to take down most enemies in a round or two. For enemies with magic resistance, a few Pierce Magics are in order.

Without a Sorcerer, the game grows a bit more challenging. Mages will have to decide what spells to cast each day, while the rest of the team strategically divides up weapons and High-Level Abilities, and every blow counts in every battle. Without mages entirely, you're playing the game on the edge.

Without clerics OR mages, count yourself dead.

 

well i have an evil party with me Berzerker, Korgan, Sarevok, Imoen, Viconia and Edwin ( the best mage in the game much better than even an created sorcerer) In most battles i just throw in my fighters and let them hack away and if it gets tough Edwin cast timestop improved alacricity and then just pound the enemy with offensive spells, chaincontingency with 3x abi dalzim is awesome after som lower resistances.

 

If you want a tougher DemoGorgon, Yaga Shura and Balthazar just download them from here http://www.sorcerers.net/Games/BG2/index_editors2.php

I had a real tough time beating this demogorgon, cause the one that was in your game when you bought it really isn't that hard to beat.

 

Edwin? Better than a created Sorcerer? Never! Not better than a Sorcerer with 20 WIS and CHA, 18 INT, 19 DEX, 14 CON, and 12 STR! HAHA! Nothin beats that!

 

Well edwin get tons of spells when he levels up so he can cast lvl 9 spells he gets 4 right away. That medallion he wears makes him unbeatable he gets more spells than i have ever had with any other magic user.

But back to subject i have finished the game now and i couldnt make Demogorgon to appear but i did slay the ravager with no special problem just throw in your fighters and wack him and have some summons fight the boneblades so your weaker melee types dont die.
Amelyssan was also a dissapointment just wack wack all the time and then maybe run and heal when you have the need. I think they should have made this game harder. The usual enemys fell like wheat in front of the fighters. Either are fighers seriously overpowered in this game or the enemys too weak. I think i rested 7 or 8 times during the whole game and that was after every Bhaalspawn and some bigger fights. And another question isnt the expierence cap in ToB set to 8m? I only got to almost 6m with my party is there more xp out there or is that cap for the soloist?
Damn it sound like im bragging but i had expected alittle more of a challenge of this expansion especially after every magazine said it was so hard. I did have all the bonuses from SoA and the stuff from there but that must have been the point, or?

But now to some positive response the story is great and the leeway to play evil in ToB is much greater than i SoA and that was funny

 

As long as you have fun that's what matters. Solo, harder difficulty level, certain kits/classes vs. others, can spice things up.

 

I think some people will always be able to say that games are easy. It just depends on how good a gamer you are. Now while I found nothing in ToB that was impossible, I persoanlly found it challenging at least, and I had an outstanding party. Lets face it: some people are just natuarlly better at some games than others. It's the natural order of things. That's why the designers have the difficulty level thing for all of you. Jack it up to insane or something if you are breezing through the game and let poor gamers such as myself stay challanged

But at least you enjoyed the story, which I found excellent and a great ending to the BG plotline. It obviously could have been spread out over the course of an entire game the length of SoA, but that's really an irrelivant gripe now. A fitting high level end for the godchild IMO.

 

well, i cannot say that it was easy - i found it damn challenging to be honest

and demiliches still piss me off

 

I thought SoA was hard as hell the first time through and jackin up the difficulty aint no fun i have always played on core and that is as it should be.
If you have two berserkers with undeadkilling weapons demiliches are a breeze if you dont start looking for protection against magic.

 

My Sorcerer can take out Demiliches alone. Melf's Minute Meteors, Energy Blades, and the good old Slayer Transformation is enough to kill any demilich with a pre-emptive Spell Immunity to Abjuration. Other than that, though, I'd have to say the toughest enemy was Balthazar. I actually had to reload on him .

Oh, and I had to reload Gromnir twice because I beat him so fast that Melissan wouldn't appear

 

sorcerers can do just about everything single- summon planetar which acts as a fighter/cleric (a very good one and completely expendable) few mordenkaines swords, etc for extra diversions. Then they cast spells ofcourse. This fills 3 of the 4 necessary role of a balanced party. Only if they could get those annoying theif skills they could solo play with ease.

 

*Of course* sorcerers can take out demiliches alone. They're the *only* ones who can...sorcerers, mages, and bards.

You make it sound like you accomplished something.

 

They are the only ones who can take out demi-liches alone? I don't know about that. Protection from Magic Scroll with anyone who has a weapon that can hurt the demi-lich is one way...

 

Of course I opened my big fat mouth before thinking. >slaps forehead< How could I forget that scroll?

Apologies. >bows<

 

if you have your beefed up party from SoA with all the best stuff (like me scavenging, hehe) it's pretty easy all the way (except for a few boss fights).

But, if you start ToB all-over in ToB, and have to settle with that crap they give you, the game can get really hard, also because of lower levels in XP

And I know you can get practically unlimited XP in Saradush!

 

Berserkers can also kill Demiliches singlehandedly and its easier than for a sorcerer and you dont need that protection from magic scroll just turn on berserk mode and hack away.
Lokken i only kept my once good berserker in ToB from SoA the rest of my party i left in my pocketplane and took all the baddies. But i had a stuffed bag of holding with most of the goodies from SoA.
But i wonder one thing are there only one helmet in ToB? Magic that is. The only one is that one with the horns and after that its empty. Except for Roranachs horn but thats lame. So if you dont have any helmets from SoA youll have to do without? (im not countng the ion stones)

 

You say you kept the bag of holding with most goodies, that's exactly my point. If you start a game in ToB you can't retrieve those goodies and mostly by starting a game in ToB, you get a bag of crap compared to what you could have got

 

I noticed that now on my second trip through i started with a inquisetor specialized in twohanded swords and halberds. And o got a bag of holding full of crap! The only worthwile ecquipment that i would even consider keeping to end of soa was the ring of protection +2 and the flail of ages.
No wonder i thought the game was easy if its designed for people with that lousy ecquipment

[This message has been edited by joacqin (edited September 04, 2001).]