Weapon creation

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I just came up with the best idea for an anti-paladin weapon. I put it in my town I'm creating using NWMap. its an animated double-bladed sword +3. Here's the description I made for it
Grieving Mother

an animated two-bladed sword +3 (double vs. Paladins) created by an evil sorceress to destroy the noble paladin Jared after her son was justly executed by him for crimes against the just and innocent. (may not
be used by those of good alignment.)

When a Paladin is within 30 ft of the sword if the wielders
str is below 15
or
con is below 13
the sword will escape the wielders grasp and attack the paladin.

-3 to chr
wielder set to chaotic evil alignment while wielding the sword.

Has anybody else come up with new items they want to implement in NWN when it comes out?



[This message has been edited by Shadow Assassin (edited August 09, 2001).]

 

But of course, since my fighter/mage will be taking the craft magic weapon feat if it's offered. But then, I certainly can't give away all my sectets. Then EVERYONE will be wanting to run around with duplicates of my weapons

 

overpower already? lets start with +1 weapons shall we

 

Thats why they put 'the Vault' into NWN. This will not allow you to save characters with too powerful items for their level. This 'mother' sounds suitable for level 20 chars. +6 vs paladins, sheesh even Carsomyr was only +5!

 

That brings up another question... What if somehow my very resourceful and cunning thief managed to steal the Holy Avenger from an absent minded lvl20 wizard who had just created it and left it on a counter? Will I still be able to... operate the sword or just sell it to somebody (what a bargain I could make! )

btw Would the wizard be able to create items at all?

 

Any 20th lvl wizard I created wouldn't be dumb enough to leave a +5 sword just lying around, it would be surrounded by wards, traps and guards. It takes a heap of money and time to create such an item so you can bet your bots of stealth he's gonna take good care of it.
IF a low level character aquires a high level item then the Vault will not let them save it, it assumes the DM has not been doing his job properly. The best you could do is sell it and spread the cash around your friends, that way you would keep some 'reward'. Think about it, if word got around that a 2nd level thief had such an item, what would his life expectancy be?

 

The situation was purely hypothetical, as you surely understood

But still, if I acquired the thing legally, or (gods, I wished that could be true!) I have a friend wizard who'd make me something big and powerful, why should I be rid of this weapon/item. I undestand if I just wouldn't be able to use the thing 'til I reach some level, but take it away... Puh-lease

So, I figure that you would be able to create items in NWN. Sweet, make a Shoppers Potion Mart

 

I certianly hope all the item creation feats will be included in NWN. Imagine, custom items tailored for your character. The possiblities certainly wet my appetite. It is definately a good way to personalize characters instead of always using "other" peoples weapons and armor as was the case in most other CRPG's (Plate of Balduran anyone? )

 

This might make spellcasters useful not only for hurling fireballs at goblin hordes(I'd hurl some but 'tis not a living, is it? )
Mages might make money by creating and selling items. On the other side, it would not make spellcasters overpowered for the most potent items require a dragon's hoard of raw materials to create and not many of your average lvl7 wizards will have the skills to make these powerful items.
Guilds might specifically hire wizards to supply the members with magical trinkets, rather than buying those from the market.

/me impatiently waits for NWN to be released.

 

Some of my expectations have just been disintegrated (save failed).
But still, hope dies with the death of the one who hopes. This is still going to be a great game.

 

ALFA have said they will consider this, however don't think it's a free lunch. It's gonna take: A wizard of high enough level (you gotta survive that long!), a lot of expensive materials (some of which may need a 'quest' to obtain), a lot of uninterupted time in a suitable lab. (you can't item create and go out adventuring at the same time), some luck (you might fail) and above all a co-operative DM to script the item.

 

I didn't say it was a low level weapon. It does have some pretty rough penalties, I'm still thinking of some more I can add. I did add a penalty to int. I meant to tell you the -3 to charisma is permanant.

[This message has been edited by Shadow Assassin (edited August 12, 2001).]

 

Sheesh. Erran just gave me some more hope!
Blessed ALFA, suren it must go completely according to the rules (if it will), but still, isn't that the best part - spend a lot of time and efforts but recieve something that only you have. No matter what, I'm playing a wizard, but item creations adds some special essence to the class.

EDIT: Hmmm... Seems like Tal's trying to settle despair in our hearts... (about the last post)

[This message has been edited by Skedaddle (edited August 13, 2001).]

 

I added a -2 penalty to damage versus evil align. I did make some +1, +2, and normal damage weapons

 

The 'official'ALFA line on item creation:

"As far as creating the Items, Yes, they can be created and carried over to other servers. The scripting will be done by the game and carried over to your Character. As far as the Meta Magic Feats of Create Item, Potion, Wand , Etc..., the answer will (sic) to that is still out as only a partial list of skills and feats have been released.
But fear not, because the DM can be petitioned, and the Item can be created with the TOOL SET that comes with the game, so the DM can create it for you if you meet their requirements for the Item.
This is a touchy subject in the realm, mainly because a lot of players and DMs wish to have magic somewhat curtailed and rare in the realms. They believe that not every character should carry a +1 ( or Better ) weapon and have a ring of something or Armor +1.
So, If these feats are not used, look for Item Creation by DMs to vary from server to server."

 

>>>They believe that not every character should carry a +1 ( or Better ) weapon and have a ring of something or Armor +1.


Magic items are always going to be an issue with massisve multiplayer persistent worlds. I mean, the characters are temporary, the items are permanent(or at least less temporary), and eventually there are just too many +1 swords around for every first level character to not have one. There's a couple of ways around that, but there aren't many good ones. I'm interested to see how ALFA deals with magic weapon proliferation.

Cullain of Moray

[This message has been edited by Cullain (edited August 14, 2001).]