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Women in Iraqi legislature

Discussion in 'Alley of Lingering Sighs' started by Slith, Jan 31, 2005.

  1. Slith

    Slith Look at me! I have Blue Hands! Veteran

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    I was watching the news program my school airs this morning, and they mentioned something interesting. The new government in Iraq, according to them, will require that 25% of the legislature, senate, congress, parliament, whatever, will be women at all times. Thoughts?
     
  2. Harbourboy

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    You have a TV at your school? Kids these days!

    Interesting concept about the female quota. Generally I am against this sort of thing as it potentially distorts the mix (e.g. what if there was only 10% of competent female politicians?).
     
  3. dmc

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    I think the point is that traditional Islamic rule did/does not tolerate women in powers of authority. This is probably an attempt to make sure that women will never be relegated to semi-servitude again.

    Of course, that raises an interesting point: what if that's what the women of Iraq want? Are we then supposed to tell them that they don't know what's good for them and leave it up to their big brothers/sisters of the West to know what's right? Not really a nice thought, is it?
     
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    1. Quotas are intended to secure women's rights within democracy and, in doing so, to secure democracy itself (given).
    2. A minimum for democracy is the legislative body of elected representatives, with every voter having one vote and each vote being equal (given).
    3. Quotas are not as high as the actual percentage of women in the society.
    4. Therefore, quotas don't provide a full representation of women.
    5. Quotas are imposed because someone wouldn't otherwise be chosen. If someone could normally be chosen, quotas wouldn't be necessary and the problem wouldn't exist.
    6. Therefore, people are going to wield elected authority who have not been elected unless there are privileged votes.
    7. Without the legislative body being elected, there is no legislative body consisting of elected representatives.
    8. With unequal votes, there is no elected body of representatives elected in an equal vote.
    9. Therefore, quotas fail to reach their declared purpose and they contradict democracy.
     
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