POLL: Your Religion

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Satanism is a splinterreligion of Christianity,

hah never saw that one coming, huh?

Theist means: I believe in God
so
Atheist means: I dont believe in or understand God

Agnostic is just being openminded, dont pick a side but open yourself for different religions... so I´m agnostic

[ October 28, 2002, 16:51: Message edited by: Morgoth ]

 

I would say that I believe in god but not in any religion. All the religions that exist today are created by man for man to control and/or comfort man. There may be divine inspiration here and there but if there is it has been to twisted that it is inrecognisable. God may be good but humans use of him is something of the most evil we have here on earth imo. It must be awfully hard for those that believe in any religios dogma and books to see what their fellow men do in the name of the god/faith that they view as something good.
Oops didnt intend for this to be a rambling post but it seems it turned out to be and if that is the case I might as well continue a bit more.
In my eyes there is no difference between the words of Jesus, Moses, Buddha, Mohammed and Voltaire, Kant and Sokrates as in they are all philosophers with something to say. But it is a human that is saying it in all instances and what they say may be good or bad, logical or not but it is still the words of a human being just like all of us here.

 

True, joaq, but the essence of religion is not necessarily the fact that a man may have said certain words that are the major basis of a religion; the essence of religion is faith/belief. What you (or any person) believes is the true foundation of their religion, and not sayings from a philosopher or believed prophet.

I am not saying that belief creates ultimate and transcendant truth - just that our own personal understanding of truth is rigorously affected by our own personal beliefs. Truth is not relative, but understanding of truth is.

 

Ah, the ramblings of those who say that all the major religious figures say the same thing just prove that you haven't really read what they say.

There are radical differences between the teachings of Jesus, Mohammed, Buddha, etc. Kicking back and saying "I don't believe any of them, but I'm sure they have good things to say" is just lazy. Go discover the truth. It's the most important thing you can do in this life.

 

I'm what would be considered a Militant Agnostic...

I don't know, and you don't know either

 

I think you misinterpreted me Shralp, I didnt say that they said the same things, I said that what they said had the same value ie the value any words said by a man, theirs perhaps a bit more as they gave things alot of thought. But I dont see any divine inspiration in their words. That is why I put up philosophers that dont have the label of a prophet but have still said very thoughtworthy things.

 

AMEN, joac. Certainly, shralp, the teachings of Moses and Jesus are incredibly different - not to mention all of the variety found in non-christian traditions. I am not judging the teachings, only commenting on the human tendency to create different meanings for themselves. Just look at the ever-popular Creationist/Evolutionist dialogues that have been hurting my ears ever since someone misinterpreted Darwin and read too far into his study. This kind of controversy is a prime example of the tendency to create meaning - regardless of the meaning of the text themselves. (This goes for not only theology, but also poetry, prose, and any other form of discourse - including messageboards!)

Oh - and I am a Methodist-turned-Catholic, btw.

[ October 29, 2002, 01:00: Message edited by: Falstaff ]

 

I'm a Christian, Protestant of the Protestants (That's what they think I am, where I live)

Mmmh, I wonder what Headbanger/Marnix would be....

 

Morgoth, when I said I didn't understand atheism or agnosticism, I knew what they meant; I just don't undestand why people choose to follow such trains of thought. For atheists, well, there's nothing to believe in; life is essentially meaningless, you live in a Godless world, then you die. As for agnostics, I feel that each should be making up their mind about one belief or another. Perhaps faith is something alien to agnosticism.

 

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Shralp.

What religion are you, again?

I must've missed where you said it in your last post.

 

I was raised christian, went thorough and atheist phrase when I was twlve or so,, now I am an agnostic and identify mostly with wicca and the other nature beliefs, if I bother to identify with anything. I mostly just don't see any reason to believe in anything. What does that make me?

Ara
(Back for a few moments)

 

I worship Joacqin.