Should 'foreigners' have to integrate?

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Hoppla. You are right, of course. The fact remains that they are a threat. Note to self: No more posting while gripped by fever. Thusly, I'm gonna try to make this quick.

The ranks of the Grey Wolves may or may not swell, but nationalism among the Turks here is definitely on the rise. Personal impressions aside, the observations of the experts would all have to be flawed otherwise. Fabius, I doubt that.

Well, I agree in part. However, the other interesting question would be why integration of Muslims, Turks, Arabs largely failed all over Europe.
It's questionable if their chauvinist attitude - regardless of how it manifests itself - is a response to our vices. Far more, it seems innate to me, legacy of their home societies. Those arent beacons of tolerance and progress. I am not that prepared to accept the blame for it. There has been failure of policies, in that they were allowed to stay. You know that was not how it was supposed to go. But we also have a severe mismatch of mentalities to deal with. Both make for a volatile mix.

 

Work migrants always settled in the countries they migrated to. That lesson should have been learned from experiences in 19th century.
And it's not that a lot of them didn't went home. Almost the half of all german 'guest workers' returned in the country of their origin.

The problems we are having now are purely social, because our integration policy was non-existent. Since the 1960es, the overall opinion in german society (for example) was negative towards non-germans with different skin colour. First, the italians were recognized as problem, then it was the turks. Therefore, integration policies were almost a non-issue until 1998.

 

Hehe, you missed the point where I switched to badmouthing Americans. No, seriously, I don't mind cooperating with people and using English as either their own language or the universal one, or even working for a division of a foreign company with foreigners and using the language they speak. But I don't like whole big banks and businesses becoming English-speaking and acquiring English as an official language. It's difficult to grasp where the limit is, but it certainly is crossed in some cases.

 

Should they be forced to intergrate? No.
Should they be forced to obey the law? Yes.

Should they be encouraged to intergrate through the provision of language lessons and education of children? Most empatically Yes.
I would struggle to understand why anyone would turn down language lessons if they intended to move to a foreign country, and would look askance at anyone refusing. I'd even go as far as making it compulsory.